Teşekkürler SuiGeneris.
You certainly know more than me on this issue.

"Kalbinde Allah sevgisi yüzünde meleklerin nuru olsun. Yürüdüğün yollar Mekke yolu, mekanın Allah katında cennet olsun. Dualarınız kabul, kandiliniz mübarek olsun."

I have written it with Turkish characters which might help translation. It is a standart text message about an islamic holly night, the "kandil". In short it means "God bless your kandil."

This is very interesting because a university student got killed in a cafe inside the university just because he bought something to drink or eat in ramadan.
In many cities you are not allowed to smoke on streets. When you do someone will come and tell you that you must not.

Yes I know. I thought it was a wedding of local villagers of Fethiye. If thats the case it is possible that the gypsies (roman) were playing in the wedding.
But it is also possible it was only davul and zurna played by local farmers.

Merhaba navoker,

forumumuza hoş geldiniz. DüşÃ¼ncelerinizi paylaşıyorum. Ayrıca yazma tarzınız örnek olabilecek kadar iyi. Türkçe öğrenen arkadaşlar fazla ek almamış kelimelerden kurulu ve kısa cümleleri daha rahat anlayabiliyorlar. Özellikle fiilin mastar hali en kolay anlaşılabilen çekimidir çünkü sözlüklerde zaten böyle geçiyor. Özellikle en alttaki son cümle çok iyi kurgulanmış gibi duruyor.
Ben de benzer bir yöntemle, yani fazla ek almamış, kısa ve kolay cümlelerle Türkçe öğretme taraftarıyım. En son aşağıdaki linkte bu konuya değinmiştim.

Yakında Türkçeyi yabancı dil olarak öğretenler için bir forum açılması düşÃ¼nülüyor. Bu konularla ilgiliyseniz lütfen ara sıra da olsa sitemize uğrayın. Yapılabilecek çok şey var şÃ¼phesiz.

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To Turkish Learners:

These sentences below, by navoker are very good educational and simple sentences I think. Our foreign friends might like to try their knowledge on them. So what do you think? Türkçe öğrenmek kolay mı? Bu cümleler kolay mı, zor mu? Türkçe okumak keyifli mi?
After this exercise you might have a look on that thread where you might find some tips:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_13_559

"Çok güzel bir site.
Çok faydalı bir site.
Lyndie, haklısın.
Türkçe öğrenmek zor.
Ama hangi iş kolay?
Kolay iş yoktur.
Kolay öğrenmek de yoktur.
Türkçe öğrenmek için Türkçe okuyup Türkçe yazmak lazım."

I disagree. They shouldnt ask for money from a stranger.

This certainly was rude by the musicians. I personally wouldnt give any money in this situation. After all I'm just passing by, right?

Many of the street musicians in Türkiye are Gypsies who neither know about traditions nor are very polite.

If they insist I would say "Allah versin" (God shall help you) or I would give the smallest money possinle, 5 Kuruş.

In general there is no Turkish tradion in which you give something when asked. In all tradions we got you can give something (including money) as a gift if it comes from your heart.

This is an interesting topic. I like to discuss these kind things.
I don’t agree with Seticio about most of the university students in Türkiye being male. I haven’t checked the statistics but I believe the females are not far from the half of the students in Turkish Universities. I guess they should be between 40%-50% but if someone would say there are more females I wouldn’t be surprised.

Also I disagree that it was almost impossible for women to go to university in Türkiye in the past. Actually the fundamentalism and the rise of conservatives in politics has began after 1980. Before that, for instance during the 60's and 70's women could easily go to universities and they could wear short skirts or whatsoever.
Both my aunts went to university but my father didn’t. They couldn’t afford to send everyone.
You might imagine Türkiye like an Arabic country which has started to develop in the last 20 years. But that’s not the case.
In the past only 30% of the population were living in the big cities. Now it is 70%. But in the past there were much less fundamentalists in small villages or in big cities.
In some jobs there are more females than males and they paid the some wages. A good example are the primary school teachers.
Unfortunately fundamentalist and conservatists females have become much stronger than they were in the past. Unfortunately the way they live and think doesn’t match the modern world. For instance some of them go to medical schools to become a doctor but they reject to see or touch a male body. In the past you would never see female medical students like these.
The aim of basic education is to help the children to understand the outer world. Children should see the relations between things and should be able to discuss things and say their opinions. Some families might fill the child's mind with unrealistic fantasies. They might prevent the kid to have access to common knowledge and might grow their kids according their fundamental believes.
As a result kids grown in such environments might think drugs shouldn’t be used even for medical purposes, using condoms or any other way to prevent unwanted pregnancy should be banned or when we die in an accident or from illness it is gods will.
Exactly for this reason basic education is a must. This is why the kids must know the world and things how they are. Now imagine the primary school teacher being a fundamentalist, what now?
Believe me in the past nobody would think about this question but now we start to do. So I don’t agree that everything was worse in the past.
The fundamentalist females want more rights and they want to change education, healthcare and public life. Should we give them more rights to accomplish their aims easily.

Merhaba Iceheart_Omnis,

yes you are right. The accents should never be written. Written Turkish always remains the same.

Standart spoken Turkish (Istanbul Turkish) is not only common in Istanbul. It is accepted as the right way to speak Turkish.

Like British have BBC, we have the TRT (Turkish Radio and TV). This is a partly independent official broadcasting company. The most correct form of speaking Turkish can be found in TRT news and this will be Istanbul Turkish. They will not say "gidecek" but will say "gidicek".
Speaking this way is also common in other big cities, especially in İzmir.

Another famous example -as you might know- is "bir".
"bir" should be said as "bi" when used as "a".

bi araba= a car

"istanbul" is also an interesting word. I like to hear and speak it as ıstanbul (undotted). I think this is the correct way but it is not so common.

Merhaba carla,
I will do a short part of them. Hopefully someone else (who has better feelings about these singers) will do it all. Nez is kind of Samantha Fox of Türkiye.

Cabuk Olalim Askim (Let's hurry my love)
singer:Yildiz Tilbe

Let's hurry my love
Let's share everything
I've dedicated myself to you
Without you I'm meaningless.


Hersey Bos (everything is meaningless)
singer:Nez

You were holding on the same direction
I was holding your hands

Hello the_maverick,
the language swiches automatically to the one which windows things is the right one. This is why above I didnt suggest to leave two keyboard layouts on regional settings.
On the right bottom of your screen there should be a small box which allows you to swich between keyboards.
It is also possible to swich with shortcut keys. You can set hot keys from the control panel>regional options>languages>details>key settings.
By default it could be "leftAlt+Shift".
The swiching thing wasnt practical for me so I didnt continue that way.