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Thread: Our racist oath

231.       Abla
3648 posts
 03 Nov 2013 Sun 02:22 am

Quote: si++

Then why our grandfathers died before? During Dardanelles war or independence war? Why did they lost their lives?

This is the most frightening thought: that victims of wars suffered and died in vain. That the ultimate injustice was done to them. In order to get rid of this disturbing thought cults of honor and rememberance are created in every country. If not it would be impossible to find soldiers for the next meaningless wars.



Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

232.       Abla
3648 posts
 03 Nov 2013 Sun 02:03 am

Edip Akbayram, Seni seven öldü (haberin var mı )

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fvX1Jkxr4Y



Edited (11/3/2013) by Abla



Thread: I can´t name ...

233.       Abla
3648 posts
 29 Oct 2013 Tue 11:41 pm

Palace of Culture and Science, Warsaw

 

PKiN widziany z WFC.jpg



Thread: to sit down

234.       Abla
3648 posts
 29 Oct 2013 Tue 07:55 pm

"Turkish: A Comprehensive Grammar" by Göksel and Kerslake says many verbs, like oturmak, can mean both entering into a state or being in a state. For those verbs, changing the aspect changes the meaning:

 

                       Tülay yanıma oturdu. (EVENT)

                       Tülay yanımda oturuyordu. (STATE)

 

The marking of progressive aspect here is YOR of course.

 

But there is a small group of verbs which in Turkish only denote entering into a state (EVENT): acıkmak ´to get hungry´, susamak ´to get thirsty´, yorulmak ´to get tired´, bıkmak ´to get bored´, kızmak ´to get angry´, kalmak ´be left´. So if you want to say you are in the state of thirst/boredom/anger you actually say you have entered that state using the past tense > susadım/bıktım/kızdım.

 

Once I was chatting with someone who was fasting. I wanted to say ´you must be thirsty´ but I used the wrong form and was misunderstood:

 

- Susuyorsun.

- Pardon biraz meşgulüm.

- ??

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Thread: Telling my hometown: -li vs -den

235.       Abla
3648 posts
 29 Oct 2013 Tue 07:12 pm

Quote: si++

Siemianowice´li

 

LI does not take the apostrophe does it? Or is it different with foreign place names?



Thread: I can´t name ...

236.       Abla
3648 posts
 29 Oct 2013 Tue 06:54 pm

State University of Moscow?

 

Not sure.



Thread: çalmak

237.       Abla
3648 posts
 29 Oct 2013 Tue 10:39 am

How can ´ring´ and ´steal´ be the same verb? No logical connection at all.

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Thread: What made you laugh today?

238.       Abla
3648 posts
 28 Oct 2013 Mon 11:19 pm

Patricia Routledge and "Keeping up Appearances". I am hooked.



Thread: The Name of Istanbul

239.       Abla
3648 posts
 27 Oct 2013 Sun 01:49 pm

 

Kulaksız

 

I was going on foot from Taksim to Hasköy and I got lost somewhere in the hills of Beyoğlu (no navigator in my ancient phone) until all of a sudden I found myself in a place where there was a graveyard on both sides of the street. Kulaksız mezarlığı! I was on the map again but the funny name of that neighborhood (‘earless’ ) began to bother me.

 

While searching for Kulaksız I found this article based on a book by Mustafa Duman:

 

http://www.posta.com.tr/PostaKarnaval/HaberDetay/Istanbul-semtlerinin-adi-nereden-geliyor-.htm?ArticleID=137617

 

It introduces the origin of certain placenames in Istanbul. Such as

 

Üsküdar, a Persian word meaning ‘a post, a halting place’ which the area really was for the many occupants in history. In the ancient times Üsküdar was also called Hrisopolis (‘the Golden town’ ) for its beauty and Scütari after a military unit that was placed there.

 

Beyoğlu got its name from one of its powerful inhabitants, possibly Luigi Gritti, the son of the ambassador of Venice who had his mansion in Taksim suburbs of today and on whom Mehmet the Conqueror often bestowed favors. Mr. Gritti established gardens in the area and introduced new vegetables to Istanbul dwellers.

 

Beşiktaş was either named after a Bysantine time church which had the stone cradle of Jesus in it or after the five stones which Barbaros Hayrettin Paşa had his vessels anchored to when returning from his trips.

 

Galata used to be a strong Genovean fortress surrounded with high walls. Galata Tower was first built in 507 and it has since functioned as a lighthouse and a fire tower for example. Galata originally got its name from Gallian immigrants who settled at this area as early as 270 years B.C. Galata was also known as Sykea (‘fig’ ) and ‘the Napoli of Justinian’.

 

Kandilli means ‘the place with oil lamps’ and it probably refers to a real event, a celebration that took place in this area.

 

Kadıköy was named after Celalettin Efendi, the first muslim judge of Istanbul after the conquest of the city. He was the offspring of Nasreddin Hoca. The Byzantine name of Kadıköy way Chalcedon (‘city of the blind’ ) which referred to the obvious blindness of its habitants to see the value of the opposite peninsula’ ).

 

...

 

 

I still did not learn where the placename Kulaksız comes from. Google obviously does not give answers to every question.

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Thread: Class Meeting =)

240.       Abla
3648 posts
 26 Oct 2013 Sat 05:23 pm

Istanbul 14-16 March 2014. Be there.

 

My suggestions for discussion:

 

It would be nice and practical if those of us who come from a long distance used the same hotel. Tidy but moderately priced, easy to reach, friendly and flexible staff. Any recommendations from experienced Istanbul travellers?

 

Preliminary program:

 

FRIDAY: arrival, settling down, maybe a cup of tea together

SATURDAY, NOON: sightseeing tour of our own, led by an Istanbul member of TC, "inside view of the city"

SATURDAY, EVENING: dinner, Gülhane park maybe?

SUNDAY: culture event (concert, theatre, exhibition, let us see)

 

Mr. vineyards has kindly offered to help with our class meeting plans.

 

Please comment.

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