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Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2881.       gokuyum
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 22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:21 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

the dematerialisation process or scattering of a person´s molicules has already been acheived... this with the help of explosives... now we just need to figure how to be able to reassemble the scattered molicules  {#emotions_dlg.angel} and it is called quantum teleportation and has been tested on protons and laser beams, so basicly a biological structure is analised, destroyed and reconstructed at the other end.

 

Please someone scatter me. It is okay if you don´t bring me together back



Thread: If clause

2882.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 12:36 pm

Simply there are two modes in Turkish:

1-Haber kipleri (tenses)  -yor,-ir,-di,-miş,-ecek

2- Dilek kipleri (wish modes)  -sin,-iniz,-se, -e, -meli  We call these wish modes because they don´t occur in time.We just imagine them.

 

If these suffixes come after one another and if two vowels come together we put y between them.

 

 



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Thread: If clause

2883.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 12:30 pm

 

Quoting Abla

I think the explanation is here:

 

When tense/aspect/modality markers co-occur they appear in the order given below (Göksel – Kerslake). Copular markers (group 4) are composite. They consist of the copula -(y)- < *-i- and the grammatical marker –DI, -mIş or –sA. Copular markers attach to

 

1. nouns

2. verbs that contain one of the tense/aspect/modality suffixes in group 3

 

 

 

1

2

3

4

5

-(y)A ‘possibility’

-(y)Abil ‘possibility’

 

-(y)Iver ‘non-premeditative’

 

-DI ‘perfective’

 

-mIş ‘perfective, evidential’

 

-sA ‘conditional’

 

-(A/I)r/-z ‘aorist’

 

-(y)Acak ‘future’

 

-(I)yor ‘imperfective’

 

-mAlI ‘obligative’

 

-mAktA ‘imperfective’

 

-(y)A ‘optative’

Copular markers:

 

-(y)DI ‘past copula’

 

-(y)mIş ‘evidential copula’

 

-(y)sA ‘conditional copula’

-Dir ‘generalizing modality’

 

 

So, in görseydim there is a suffix -sA- from group 3. That is why in further affixation it is treated like it was a noun and the copula -(y)DI-  -  buffer included  -  is used with it.

 

The situation would be the same in gördüysem btw  -  -DI- from group 3 and -(y)se- from copular markers.

 

I have understood the buffer is a relic from the old *er- stem, so no wonder.

 


 

 

Thank you abla. You saved me.



Thread: If clause

2884.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 12:15 pm

 

Quoting HaNNo

 

 

Sorry there is something i couldn´t understand here.

 

Does the imaginary "i" is always with the "di" past tense or only with if clause.

 

Meaning that when i say "I ran" would it be "yürüdüm" or "yürüydüm"

 

Thanks again

It seems it happens only with if clause. Interesting. But why? I will search.

It doesnt happen only with if clause. It happens with -meli (necessity) gelmeliydi.

                                                                               -a  (will) geleydi.



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Thread: If clause

2885.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:38 am

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Thread: If clause

2886.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:35 am

 

Quoting HaNNo

I was learning If clause (type 3 unrealistic) -as they call it in Merhaba Turkish site-  i have some questions please:

 

Seni görseydim, selam verirdim


1. Why the buffer "y" is used here?

2. Does "ir" refers to present simple tense and also "dim" for past simpletense? And if so, why it is not only "dim" or even "miş"?

 

Thanks in advance

1) There is a buffer letter there because there is an imaginary "i" before "di": "idi" We don´t pronounce it anymore but we still use the buffer letter.

2)"-ir"refers to present simple tense and "-di" refers to past simple tense. "m" after "-di" is personal ending for "I". So you can understand first person singular does the action. "irdi" together gives "would" meaning.

 



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Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2887.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:34 am

 

Quoting stumpy

man can travel faster than light, the problem is not bursting into flames or stopping. just like man can be teleported from one location to another, we just haven´t mastered the rematerialisation process yet

 

Dematerialisation and rematerialisation of a man will never be achieved by science. It is impossible. Only God can make such a thing happen. Science has its limits.



Thread: -si?

2888.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:28 am

 

Quoting Abla

 

 

My Try:

 

Orhan Pamuk´un "Kara kitap"ı OR

Orhan Pamuk´un "Kara kitap" romanı OR

Orhan Pamuk´un "Kara kitap" adlı romanı

 

All of them are correct.



Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2889.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:04 am

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Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

2890.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 22 Oct 2012 Mon 08:21 am

Seyyid Nesimi - Sığmazam - Cavit Murtezaoğlu

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHz-vMHfypM

 

Great music. I will translate the song in the Ottoman poetry section.



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