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Buddhist marry Muslim
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04 May 2007 Fri 12:34 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Look, I'm not a muslim that really practises the religion, but I have muslim friends,a friend whose father is imam, and other good practising muslim friends, and I referred to them and they all told me that a muslim woman is not allowed to marry a muslim man, and even if it's more accepted for a muslim man to marry a monotheist woman, a muslim woman is strongly preferred. |
That's a very nice, tolerant, equal, loving "law"... makes me wonder who came up with it...   |
The reason of this is I think and probably is because woman and man nature are different in İslam (maybe also in other religions). The chief of the family is man in İslam and the woman nature is weaker, but this does not mean that she's inferior (but some men sees women inferior, it's true). The man is dominant and the children are raised according to the man's religion (because he has a dominant nature). Anyway, a muslim woman is preferred because two muslim parents is better than one muslim parent, and if all muslim men marry with nonmuslims, and if the muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim then how can she marry some one?
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04 May 2007 Fri 12:38 am |
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Quoting mltm: The reason of this is I think and probably is because women and men nature are different in İslam (maybe also in other religions). The chief of the family is man in İslam and the woman nature is weaker, but this does not mean that she's inferior (but some men sees women inferior, it's true). The man is dominant and the children is raised according to the man's religion (because he has a dominant nature). Anyway, a muslim woman is preferred because it's better than one muslim parent, and if all muslim men marries with nonmuslims, and if the muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim then how can marry some one? |
mltm, please spare more of these explanations, I gathered more then enough that in islam women are inferior to men, because koran said so!!!
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04 May 2007 Fri 12:42 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
mltm, please spare more of these explanations, I gathered more then enough that in islam women are inferior to men, because koran said so!!! |
Can you please give an example catwoman?
I think that the thought of women being inferior is a cultural thing, but a religious thing.
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04 May 2007 Fri 12:43 am |
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Quoting mltm: Anyway, a muslim woman is preferred because two muslim parents is better than one muslim parent, and if all muslim men marry with nonmuslims, and if the muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim then how can she marry some one? |
i just cant see the point in here. dont raise an artificial issue please.
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04 May 2007 Fri 12:46 am |
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Quoting DaMoonGirl: I have turkish boyfriend but I'm so afraid to talk or to think about marry with him because it look like a dream, build castle in the air. If Buddhist girl wanna marry with muslim guy in Turkey, what will be happened later? Do I have to change religion to be muslim? It would be appreciated if you have experience or heard anything about this before. Please advice me, thanks alot |
if u are so afraid of him, then what do u like about him yes muslim guys loooooove to convert girls into Islam. but i recommend you to be urself.
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04 May 2007 Fri 12:52 am |
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Quoting azade: Can you please give an example catwoman?
I think that the thought of women being inferior is a cultural thing, but a religious thing. |
did you mean "NOT a religious thing"? then you must not see what you're looking at. religion and culture always mingle together and are influenced by one another. it's strange to say that something is cultural but not religious in a country that's 99% muslim and every part of social life is affected by religious tradition (not necessarily beliefs).
what other examples do you want? mltm explained it very clearly .
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04 May 2007 Fri 01:03 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting azade: Can you please give an example catwoman?
I think that the thought of women being inferior is a cultural thing, but a religious thing. |
did you mean "NOT a religious thing"? then you must not see what you're looking at. religion and culture always mingle together and are influenced by one another. it's strange to say that something is cultural but not religious in a country that's 99% muslim and every part of social life is affected by religious tradition (not necessarily beliefs).
what other examples do you want? mltm explained it very clearly . |
Ahh yes sorry I meant "not". Don't know where that but came from.
You're completely right that religion and culture mingle but when talking about inferiosity and traditions it's still important to keep them apart, because this doesn't come from islam it comes from some of the cultures where people happen to be muslim.
I'm looking for an example from Qur'an-i kerim, not interpretations.
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04 May 2007 Fri 01:04 am |
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Quoting armegon: Quoting mltm: Look, I'm not a muslim that really practises the religion, but I have muslim friends,a friend whose father is imam, and other good practising muslim friends, and I referred to them and they all told me that a muslim woman is not allowed to marry a muslim man, and even if it's more accepted for a muslim man to marry a monotheist woman, a muslim woman is strongly preferred. Here it's explained (in turkish)http://www.hayrettinkaraman.net/sc/00100.htm
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But its source is hadiths not the Kur'an i think, Kur'an is a book on justice, if men can do something, also women can do it...Others are humans interpretation...Allah does not say something like that, do you think Allah forgot something in Kur'an whereas Allah says Kur'an is fully detailed. And that hadiths contradict with Kur'an, so we must believe in Allah not Hayrettin Karaman... |
Yes, it's said that there's not any "ayet" that clearly bans the woman from marrying non muslim man, but there're ayets about man marrying woman, and it's said that on such an important matter if a woman was allowed to marry a non muslim man, there should have been an ayet about it. And in some ayets there're some points that we can come to this conclusion. This page explains better(again in turkish):http://www.geocities.com/IslamPencereleri/gayrimuslimevlilik.htm
Hadiths are not Kouran laws ofcourse, but isn't it weird that we can come to a conclusion that a muslim woman can marry a non muslim man whereas there's not any ayet about it while there's a detailed ayet about man marrying non muslim woman.
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04 May 2007 Fri 01:08 am |
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Quoting armegon:
Kur'an is a book on justice, if men can do something, also women can do it.. |
I think the justice is not the same in Kur'an as we have created it in our society. The duties of woman and man are not always same in the book. While a woman needs the permission of a father or an uncle etc to marry the man that she wishes, a man doesn't need a permission.
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04 May 2007 Fri 01:12 am |
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Quoting mltm:
Yes, it's said that there's not any "ayet" that clearly bans the woman to marry non muslim man, but there're ayets about man marrying woman, and it's said that on such an important matter if a woman was allowed to marry a non muslim man, there should have been an ayet about it. And in some ayets there're some points that we can come to this conclusion. This page explains better(again in turkish):http://www.geocities.com/IslamPencereleri/gayrimuslimevlilik.htm
Hadiths are not Kouran laws ofcourse, but isn't it weird that we can come to a conclusion that a muslim woman can marry a non muslim man whereas there's not any ayet about it while there's a detailed ayet about man marrying non muslim woman. |
Check over on 2/221 that verse addresses both women and men
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