I observed last 45 topics in News forum and i found 6 of them negative(some of them neccessary, some of them not) about Turkey. I found 7 0f them positive. I always appreciate necessary negative comments. What are your statistics? Or what are your opinions about my statics? Please write which one you agree which one you don´t and why? Have a nice day

Negative topics according to me:

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46507

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46506

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45255

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43411

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43562

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_42724 

 Positive topics according to me:

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46445

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_39275

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45276

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45195

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_44721

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43520

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43232 

made me laugh!

All negative threads are by Dutch!   (except one by hairy)

All positive threads are not by Dutch (except one, the fifth, by Dutch, which Im thinking why it is considred as positive?)

Thank you for stats. had fun

You are welcome. By the way I love Dutchs. Do u have some topics to add my list possitive or negative? Have a nice day.

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 Balance is important. I will observe soon last 100 topic and find out if the balance was always like this. So if anybody have doubts about balance they should delete their negative posts. Statistics never lies.

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A topic about positive and negative topics is positive or negative ? 

Stats can never be positive or negative. its a set of info. It can be used for any purpose.

Statistics don´t lie. They say there are 6 negative, 7 positive topics in the last 45 posts. What is wrong about this?

Sorry to butt in here - and not that it affects the content of the thread in any way - but I think the word you all want is ´STATISTICS´ not ´STATICS´ (unless static has a whole new meaning I´m not aware of - which is entirely possible of course!)

thank u lady in red. please correct the topic and wait for my last statistics about last 100 posts.

You see? I see what I want 2 c.

From the beginnings I took it as statistics, never noticed the spelling.

statistically spellings are not noticed.

statistics right?? Static reminds me static electric

Negative topics according to me (in last 90 topics) (some of them necessary, some of them not)

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46507

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46506

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45255

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43411

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43562

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_42724

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41530

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41042

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40983

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40941

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40678

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40677

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40701

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40458

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40330

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40167

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40014

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40007

Positive Topics according to me (in last 90 topics)

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46445

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_39275

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45276

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45195

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_44721

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43520

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43232

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_42279

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40989

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41053

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41085

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40437

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40673

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40319

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40497

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40495

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40327

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40131

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40006

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 Necessary topics mean we can learn something from them and try to improve ourselves.

Yes there is a balance in total but how is the balance of individuals? Next i will observe my posts about Turkey. I am a pessimist so i have a lot of negative posts but i think i have a balance i have negative posts about other countries too. Let´s see.

My statistics:

Negative comments and translations about my country and my people: 20

Positive comments and translations about my country and my people: 21

Negative comments and translations about other countries and their people: 7

Possitive comments and translations about other countries: 5

gokuyum....I can respect and appreciate that you would like to see more positives reported here on TC and a bit less negative but in your effort to promote positivety, you are being very negative! 

With that said, if you read any newspaper, watch any news program, or read news on line, I am SURE you will find that MOST news reports are negative.  That is the nature of news.  I think it is important for people to see the "downside" of Turkey as well.  A lot of people vacation there and think that all of Turkey is one big holiday land with rainbows and kittens.  

Anyway, it is nice to see good things about Turkey.  We are all here on this website because we love Turkey and are connected to it in someway.  Perhaps many of us need to be reminded that Turkey is a place just like any other, with problems and unrest.  Maybe you could spend your energy reminding us that it is also a place of great beauty and wonderful people. 

 I haven´t read the whole topic, just got through the first couple posts so sorry if someone else may have already but I´m just wondering.....who´s to say what is necessary and what is not? 

(And sorry to tell you this but statistics can absolutely lie.  While the facts are the facts, the stats can be skewed by whoever is compiling them so that they come out in the way the statistician wants) 

 You know they say there are three types of lies:

1)  lies

2) damn lies

3) Statistics

The third negative one, the one I posted about Saban is not negative for Turkey in my eyes. It´s the Dutch legal system that f....,I mean "messed" up. It was the Turkish police who caught the guy, so hooray for them!

 If you try to use statisticcs for lottery games, it will not work. Don´t blame the statistics. 

 I mentioned "according to me". I asked your opinions because they are not absolute.Statistics don´t lie but people lie.

When you walk your dog, statistically, both of you have 3 legs

Gokum, you´ve got way too much time on your hands, haven´t you?

Besides, discussing news you consider negative, may lead to positive conclusions. I think everything we read teaches us something, so in the end, there are no unnecessary posts - your TC membership does not obligue you to read every single post on the site - be selective and it will help your blood pressure stay on a healthy level

I 100% agree with turkaturk.

I am amazed with the way your brain works. Tell me, for god´s sake, are you aware of what kind of world you live in? You say, "Statistics don´t lie but people lie". Who makes the statistics?  There is no pure science.

If you go to the doctor with pain in your ear, he doesn´t give you brain surgery, because statistically it would be more likely for you to have an ear infection. Without statistic, the doctor wouldn´t know what is more likely and just act on the worst case scenario in every single case, and put you through a crazy amount of health-tests.

Statistics are just a way to try and comprehend the complicated real world. You can never check every thing or every body in the world, so you take a part of the world and make likely estimations. Sometimes statistics do cover everything they´re trying to investigate (in case we´re investigating something that can be more easily recorded). Statistics are not evil. There just numbers on a piece of paper or on a computer screen. People can twist and turn the numbers, fake them, or make unsound assumptions based on the numbers. This does not mean statistics are always wrong. Some people make mistakes and, even more disturbing, some people manipulate.

Speaking of statistic, I recall the following question where statistics misleads you paradoxically (as stated in red text):

Suppliers ´A´ and ´B´ provided the following numbers of products for the luxury hamper market:

Although the suppliers try very hard to ship their goods in perfect condition, there is inevitably some spoilage - i.e. products gone bad.

The suppliers compare their performance using two types of statistic:

• The five per-product spoilage rates for each supplier are equal to the number of products gone bad divided by the number of products supplied, for each of the five products in turn.
• The overall spoilage rate for each supplier is equal to the total number of products gone bad divided by the total number of products provided by that supplier.

To their surprise, the suppliers found that each of the five per-product spoilage rates was worse (higher) for ´B´ than for ´A´ by the same factor (ratio of spoilage rates), m>1; and yet, paradoxically, the overall spoilage rate was worse for ´A´ than for ´B´, also by a factor of m.

There are thirty-five m1 for which this surprising result could have occurred, the smallest of which is 1476/1475.

What´s the largest possible value of m?
Give your answer as a fraction reduced to its lowest terms, in the form u/v.

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  good one.

 http://www.blurtit.com/q437598.html

 It is nothing important but just someone´s opinion. Don´t come with such stupid "documents".

Look at this. (it is from the same site) (some another one´s opinion)

http://www.blurtit.com/q554896.html

"Statistics do not tell the truth. Darell Huff in How to Lie with Statistics has said that there is terror in numbers. Statistics can be manipulated by interpreting the numbers in a less than through manner.  It is quite easy to distort the statistics and numbers to give an imprecise turn of events. Though this is not a rule, most marketing companies and even insurance organizations present ´alarming statistics´ as a wake-up call, when there is really no need to do so.  In the book How to Lie with Statistics by Darrell Huff, he talks about how you can talk back to a statistic. It is said that people get motivated to do things out of fear rather urge to do something. There are people who like to focus on the statistics rather than go through the entire content. In such a situation, you can show through numbers how bleak, the state of things are. However it is advisable to present things or information as they are. Lying with statistics may help you in the long run but in the end you may just end up as a statistic! "

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just out of curiosity, what is the point behind making these analyses? i.e. is their any significancy?

and what are they? may I ask

 Check spritzer´s comments if they are not deleted. http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46507

I don´t care the numbers of negative or positive topics. I care who opened how many negative or possitive topics. Find yourself.