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Thread: T to E s´il vous plait :)

1791.       Abla
3648 posts
 20 Jul 2012 Fri 02:15 pm

Quote:lakklo

dost bildiklerim gönlümün hangi köşesinde bilmelisin..gülüme dokunurken dikenin batacağını bilmelisin mesala..!!

 

My Try:

 

You must know in which corner of my heart those are whom I regard as friends. For instance you must know when one touches my rose the thorn will prick.



Thread: SUBJECT

1792.       Abla
3648 posts
 20 Jul 2012 Fri 01:40 pm

Quote:tunci

Adverbs as Subject

Gece,  benim en sevdiğim vakittir. ---> Night   is  my  favorite time.

Subject                                                    Subject

 

Yarın çok geç olacak.  -----------? Tomorrow will be too late

Subject                                              Subject

 

Couldn´t we just see it as a result of the Turkish enthusiasm to change everything into nouns?

 

Do you really feel it is an adverb here?



Thread: Istanbul

1793.       Abla
3648 posts
 19 Jul 2012 Thu 10:39 pm

Thank you stumpy, I will play with it again.



Thread: T to E por favor^^

1794.       Abla
3648 posts
 19 Jul 2012 Thu 01:06 pm

This was recently translated here:

 

                     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_54242

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Thread: Zero as a Grammatical Marker

1795.       Abla
3648 posts
 19 Jul 2012 Thu 01:01 pm

1. Unmarked means ´without suffix´, yes.

 

2. There is no marking of present tense in

 

                                 Mutfakta otur|uyor|um.

 

-Iyor- stands for progressive/continuous aspect.

 

How come we understand it is present then? Because obviously it is not past (there is no past tense marking).

 

3. -(A/I)r is not a present tense marking either. In present tense forms it denotes imperfective aspect. In past tense forms it is there to express habituality.

 

4. Yes, you are right, si++:

 

                                   3rd person sg is the unmarked PERSON.



Thread: Please help translating these 3 quotations

1796.       Abla
3648 posts
 19 Jul 2012 Thu 09:37 am

Quote:Scott88

"Baktım zor Gunlerin

    Gitmeye Niyeti yok

    Cektim Altina bir

    Sandalye Buyur

    Kardes gel.

    Otur Dedim."

 

I saw the difficult time had no intention to go away. I grabbed a chair for him  -  please feel yourself at home. Come, my fellow, take a seat, I said.

 

Quote:

"Eger

     Ortaligi

     Karistiriyorsam

     Dibi

     Tutmasin

      Diye."

 

If I am mixing it it´s because I don´t want it to stick to the pan and burn.

 

Quote:

"Kimsenin

      pesinden

      kosacak degilim!

     Insansa beraber

     Yururuz zaten..."

 

I am not going to run after anyone. But if he is a human being we can walk together.

 

(My Tries Only.)

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Thread: Learners´ Confessions - Ease Your Conscience

1797.       Abla
3648 posts
 18 Jul 2012 Wed 10:35 pm

Well it crossed my mind.



Thread: Learners´ Confessions - Ease Your Conscience

1798.       Abla
3648 posts
 18 Jul 2012 Wed 07:52 pm

Flying on THY I tried to ask the air hostess for elma suyu. She didn´t understand me until I said it in English.



Thread: Zero as a Grammatical Marker

1799.       Abla
3648 posts
 18 Jul 2012 Wed 07:47 pm

If learners were asked what the present tense marking in Turkish is many would say it is –Iyor. That’s what beginner level lessons teach.

 

Well it’s not. Present tense has no marking. We recognize present tense from the missing past tense marking.

 

-Iyor only tells us that the action is continuing or progressive and it can as well occur together with the past tense –DI. It works very much the same way as BE + -ing in English.

 

Within every grammatical category there is usually an unmarked member. I guess this is a universal fact, part of the economy of language. The unmarked forms are those which are most frequently used and the most simple in meaning. There is no big surprise in the list of Turkish unmarked categories.

 

Singular is the unmarked NUMBER.

Present is the unmarked TENSE.

Imperative is the unmarked MODE.

Absolutive (Nominative) is the unmarked CASE.

Active is the unmarked VOICE.

 

In many languages Masculine is the unmarked GENDER but in Turkish fortunately we don’t have to worry about that.

 

I think markedness is such a foxy feature in human languages I just had to share my remarks about it. Feel free to correct me or to continue from where I finished.



Edited (7/18/2012) by Abla



Thread: Istanbul

1800.       Abla
3648 posts
 18 Jul 2012 Wed 02:20 pm

When can we expect Google street view of Istanbul or is it me who just can´t use it? I can only fly over the roofs in some places.



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