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Thread: easy e to t

2201.       Abla
3648 posts
 27 Apr 2012 Fri 11:05 pm

beğenmek takes accusative object:

 

                      Onu beğeniyorum. ´I like it.´

 

And the negative:

 

                      Onu beğenmiyorum. ´I don´t like it.´

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Thread: E to T

2202.       Abla
3648 posts
 27 Apr 2012 Fri 10:44 pm

Quote:Inscrutable

they w´ere here for 2 days before the came to Istanbul.

 

 

Maybe:

 

İstanbul´a gelmeden önce burada iki gündür kaldılar.

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Thread: E to T

2203.       Abla
3648 posts
 27 Apr 2012 Fri 10:30 pm

Quote:Inscrutable

I can´t wair for the weekend.

 

My Try:

 

Hafta sonuna kadar sabırsızlanıyorum. (´I grow impatient´ )

 

I guess if you use bekleyemiyorum/bekleyemeceğim there is a slightly different meaning (I don´t have the prerequisite for waiting so long´ ) but wait for masters.



Edited (4/27/2012) by Abla
Edited (4/27/2012) by Abla



Thread: T-E Song translation

2204.       Abla
3648 posts
 27 Apr 2012 Fri 04:05 pm

It is Yaralı gül, a poem by Mehmet Tokat. You can find the text here:

 

http://www.antoloji.com/mehmet-tokat-yarali-gul-siiri/

 

Such depressing stuff. A guy gets kicked out by his gf, becomes a smelly bum and ponders suicidal thoughts. A good poem if one wants to enjoy his misery to its fullest.



Thread: t to e

2205.       Abla
3648 posts
 27 Apr 2012 Fri 01:38 pm

Quote:nifrtity

Ardına bakmadan çekip gidenlerin peşine düşmek için yaratılmadık biz! Herkesin harcı değildir sevmek
Ya varızdır ya da yok!
Bir görünüp bir kaybolmak ayın ve yıldızların işidir, sen insansın! HATIRLADIN MI?
Seviyorsa sevgilinin gönlünde ya taht kurmuşuzdur ya da tahtı olmayan bir saraya baş tacı olmuşuzdur.
Bén elbet yeniden baş tacı olacak bir yâr bulurum!

 

My Try:

We were not created to chase those who walk out without looking back. Not everyone is able to love. We either have this quality or we don’t.

It’s the moon and starts which once show and the next moment disappear. You are a human being.  Did you remember that?

In love we have either established a throne in the lover’s heart or become a crown*) for a throneless castle. I’m sure I will find again a sweetheart who can be that crown.

 

 

(*) baş tacı also means a greatly loved and respected person, I don’t know which one to use. Pretty unclear thoughts but probably the deficiency is in my understanding. Hopefully someone else will take a look at is for us.)

 

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Thread: The Yielding Vowel in Some Stems

2206.       Abla
3648 posts
 27 Apr 2012 Fri 01:19 pm

On second thoughts what I suggested about (C)VCVC stems can´t be true. From my lacking vocabulary I find plenty of (C)VCVC nouns which don´t lose any vowels but keep them tight. Such as okul, bedel, keder, kadın, bahar, besin, onur, ışık, atık, katır, umur, iman, beyaz. So much for that.



Thread: t to e please

2207.       Abla
3648 posts
 26 Apr 2012 Thu 11:38 pm

Quote:nifrtity

seni bahara bırakmam ben kışa çadır kurarken sen yaza eş olamazsın

 

My Try:

 

I won´t leave you to spring. You can´t be the mate of summer while I am setting up a shelter for winter.

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Thread: The Name of Istanbul

2208.       Abla
3648 posts
 26 Apr 2012 Thu 09:34 pm

http://yasam.bugun.com.tr/suikast-yapilmak-istenen-padisah-153707-haberi.aspx

İkinci Bâyezid´e suikast teşebbüsü

Osmanlı tarihinde suikast yapılmak istenen padişah kim?

 

Sultan Bayezid II Veli (reign 1481-1512) had the difficult job to lead his country between two such brilliant sultans as his father Mehmed II the Conqueror and his son Selim I the Grim. He led the country through difficult times and he didn’t actually do so bad.

Bayezid II had to fight for the throne with his brother Cem Sultan. This overshadowed the first years of his reign. Cem looked for allies both from Egypt mamelukes and the Pope in order to dethrone his brother but eventually with no success. Revolts in the Empire, trouble with dervish groups and even attempted assassination all made Bayezid’s era a difficult one.

Padişahın ölmesi ise Osmanlı İmparatorluğu’nu tam bir kaosa sürükleyebilirdi. İkinci Bâyezid’in birçok oğlu ve torunu olduğu için Osmanlı İmparatorluğu büyük bir taht kargaşasına  sürüklenecekti. Avrupa’da fırsat bekleyen Cem Sultan’ı kullanacak olan Hristiyanlar da bir Haçlı Seferi açabilirlerdi. The death of the Sultan would have driven Ottoman Empire into a chaos. The Ottoman Empire would have been dragged into a serious throne crisis because Bayezid II had many sons and grandsons. The Christians also might have started a Crusade using Cem Sultan, who was waiting for his chance in Europe.

But Bayezid II regularized the achievements of Mehmed II and even added to the Ottoman conquests. He is also remembered as the Sultan who saved the Muslim and Jewish population of Anladucia from inquisition. They say Bayezid was keen on scholarship and culture just like his father.

 

The end of the Sultan was not very glorious:

İkinci Bâyezid’in, Şehzade Ahmed’i tahta çıkarma teşebbüsü üzerine yeniçeriler isyan etti. Bu gelişme üzerine Şehzade Selim’i İstanbul’a çağıran İkinci Bâyezid, 24 Nisan 1512′de Osmanlı tahtından çekildi. Dimetoka’ya gitmek üzere yola çıkan İkinci Bâyezid yolda hastalanarak 21 Mayıs 1512′de öldü. The Janissary corps rose in rebellion because Bayezid tried to throne Prince Ahmed. As a result of this development Bayezid II was abdicated from the throne on April 24, 1512. He fell sick and died on the road after setting out on a journey to Didymoteicho on May 21, 1512.



Thread: The Yielding Vowel in Some Stems

2209.       Abla
3648 posts
 26 Apr 2012 Thu 06:49 pm

Yes. I really missed it. That the Arabic loans didn´t have the vowel in the first place and there must have been more steps in their development.

 

But my point is that phonetic changes don´t happen to certain groups of words, they happen to certain queues of phonemes.

 

Whatever the order of events has been a phonetic law has come and swallowed them all. Not one by one or group by group.



Edited (4/26/2012) by Abla



Thread: The Yielding Vowel in Some Stems

2210.       Abla
3648 posts
 26 Apr 2012 Thu 06:16 pm

Why should I set them aside if they follow the same pattern? Speakers hardly make these distinctions.

 

I have understood phonetic laws  -  if this is one, it´s my guess  - work in a language for some limited time and go. That´s why I suggested it happened while the Arabic loans were already there. A phonetic law doesn´t ask where the word came from, it looks for certain phonetic combinations and operates in them like a machine.

 



Edited (4/26/2012) by Abla



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