Muhittin,

The answer always seems to be regarding the Akkus rhusati that "I will get it."   This is over a year.  The man has had plenty of time. 

So far, I´m not very impressed.   Why wasn´t this builder given a time limit.  Why did I pay for courts when there hasn´t been any direction for this builder.

I´m hoping you are a good solicitor.  Time will tell.   I am a member of two active forums in Altinkum the "Absolutely Altinkum forum" and "Turkish Living forum."

As Ali recommended you, I hope you don´t let Ali down.  He seemed to have a lot of faith in you.

Merhaba Muhittin

I am planning coming out end of October.  Could you confirm if Iskan will be ready then on Akkuslar property as I don´t want a wasted journey.

Please e mail reply as I can get a translation.

they all talk like that. I recognise the patter.

Not unusual.

Thanks Keith

does TBMM, Ankara Turkey

mean the Parliament?

Regards Angela

I have wrote the same address for Atilla Koc and Abdullah Gul.

Atilla Koc
Kultur ve Turizm Bakani

Need full address of parliament please


AND

Abdullah Gul need Turkish for President and address
of Parliament

I have tried to send 3 private messages but they have failed. Is anything wrong with this service please?

I think this guy has stooped very low to expect off you. As to pay you back next year I suspect he would just ignore it once he had the computer. His next mission would be to see what else he could get.

It seems life is getting too easy for them in the resorts. They have never had it so good. Thinking the tourist has too much money, which is not the case. Generally it takes a year to save for a holiday for most people.

The businesses must be booming with all the tourist trade and unfortunately I have heard people that won't return because of the ripping off.

Personally I am not frightened by Bird Flu. I will still be going to Turkey.

I would like to point out, I know a Chinese woman and when it was an epidemic in China 2-3 years ago she planned to go and see her family.

The planes were inhibited from travelling U.K. to China in fear of bringing the disease back to here.

She waited for months until she was allowed to go back and it was safe as a destination.

Dusk and all: Does anyone fall in love without seeing. It seems very possible with computers these days.

It is like a DREAMWORLD. Not reality!!! Getting engrossed in a book (Same concept).

Would it be the same, if were to meet up with person??????

They can be quite bizarre computers. How many females/males have more than one intense friendship. The other doesn't know?

Be very careful, everything is not as it seems!!! A lot of the time.

What is in the HIDDEN AGENDA and the ramifications.

As Turkey grow a lot of melons and serve them.

Try this: Galia melon balled and sprinkled with demerara sugar, add a little sherry. Chill and serve.

As far as I understand, it is an abnormality to do with the chromosones.

Kelebek: we have all experienced this sort of love and the man has played away, when we were in our teens.

The good thing is, you are very young, and there are plenty of young single men, who would only be too willing to love and cherish you, for the person you are.

It will be his loss, and he will regret it. As he has not appreciated the love you gave him.

He might be feeling he wants a taste of the high life, then will probably settle down easily later as they usually do. He is still very young and needs a life at the moment.

Try and find it in your heart to move on, and explore new horizons. Don't dwell on him too much. If you meet someone else, he might be devastated. Go out and meet new persons. This will be the best direction.

I sent international signed for and it never reached destination in Turkey. Too much hassle with Royal Mail, since June, and still waiting for compensation.

Emma: twice I have sent things to Turkey and it hasn't arrived. I only use Western Union money transfer now. Hope this helps you.

You can be sure. It can be collected in 20 mins, as long as person has proof of identity and given the 10 digit number from you by W.U.

Emma: twice I have sent things to Turkey and it hasn't arrived. I only use Western Union money transfer now. Hope this helps you.

You can be sure. It can be collected in 20 mins, as long as person has proof of identity and given the 10 digit number from you by W.U.

Thankyou, just had it translated, it was he is waiting for her.

Friend just been on phone for translation.

I have given what I know.

This is what other is seni Bekhcem or is it Bekleyecegim?

Please translate quick, person on phone. thankyou

If a Turkishman's wife worked, then she would have her independence. She would not be relying solely on her husband. This is where he would not feel the main provider. He would also not feel the respect of a male, that the stay at home housewife would give.

Personally, I think he would feel he would lose the macho husband image being protective and providing for his wife and family.

I don't think it would go down with the Turkish culture where they lived and he would probably feel inferior to his surroundings. The culture is very important to prove he can provide for wife and family. The male seemingly still has to some degree dominance in the household. And, as someone stipulates, what is expected is the wife, to be quiet and allow him to have his male friends.

Thanks Elisa: have put it in my favourites.

What Ramayan says is the trend for a Turkish wife in Turkey, the ideal age.

We in Britain and America are more versatile on age of partners.

Luckily, I do eat a lot of these foods, I know red berries and dark green vegetables and oily fish is very good.

I am trying to concentrate on healthy bones, skin, hair, and slow the ageing process down. As well as keeping to all essential foods. Oh and losing weight. Like food too much.

Bliss: Thanks for all those health directions. I'm going to print it off.

Miss Ceyda:

I really like reading your posts, because of my enquiring mind. I did not think Turkish girls had such strong characters and opinions. Maybe from a lot of Turkish men ignoring women in their company.

I'm glad I have found out, the women are not as vulnerable and over-ruled by men.

It is very nice to be told you are loved ultimately, passionately and feeling so cared for.

Last September, we met up with someone off here. In the prospects of swimming pool maintenance as there are hundreds of them. Repairing a lot of electrical maintenance, as he was a qualified electrician. This went down the swanee as he encountered a bad experience. Still he might still be interested.

My other two friends a couple who are retired had seen a bar on the beach front with accommodation, so that may be an adventure. He has already asked a couple of Turkish men. But I am very interested. More with organising.

So that is your answer Dushkavesi.

Friends and I are seriously thinking of opening a business in Turkey.

Does Turks still have to be employed. Last I heard it did not matter as they want in E.U. and are trying to adapt for entry.

Deli: you are quite right: some have ulterior motives. Instinct and compulsion play an important role.

In England the men only tell you they love you, if they intend marrying you. They may really feel they do, but will only commit themselves verbally, for marriage.

Bursali, I don't know about U.S.A. Try looking at website.

My friend and I will be visiting Istanbul between March and April.

Could someone tell me where the best location is, for booking hotels. Something central and near the sea.

I couldn't believe how clear it was the first time I used it.

I bought an inexpensive microphone, and the connection was excellent.

Its no problem if you have Windows XP.

http://www.niftylist.co.uk
* 1p/minute landline: FIRST DIAL 0844 861 48 48 (listen message confirm rate) and then dial Turkish No.

* 4p/minute mobile First Dial 0844 428 32 32 confirm charge then dial Turkish No.

HAPPY SAVING

include 0090 code to phone Uk to Turkey

and 0044 From Turkey to UK

If anyone is interested in interacting English and Turkish. I am on Skype, it is a very clear line. Contact me by pm.

Hi Miss Ceyda, thanks for explaining. I can sympathise with you. I think we have been to places and felt the same.

Are you in England studying English?

Evet Miss Ceyda, I see you were being instigated.

I would like you to express how you feel trapped in a country with limitations. This would explain a lot to us foreigners about just seeing the surface of a country and how a female feels in Turkey.

Hi Drew,

I do hope you are successful in capturing that beautiful Turkish woman.

I believe you have to work hard at it. As they are very reticent. Someone might give you guidance on this aspect.

I'm sure you will get some help from the males in here, on how to get to know her.

Jinggay: What courage you have, and don't reproach yourself.

Asking you for what he did in 3 weeks, sounds he has no remorse.

Thank you Elisa.

Paragraphs in dictionary translation: I thought I saw something about putting whole paragraphs in translation a few days ago. I can't seem to find it. Can someone help me please.
From Turkish to English.

Jonathan: Wow....... I have looked at website, and Uludag/Bursa is only 1 or 1 and half hours south of Istanbul. Starting 27th December until April which is excellent.

Jonathan: Please let me know if it was extremely cold. Or is it sunshine reflecting the snow:

Jonathan: Thank you for information.

Ski-ing: Does anyone know if you can have a ski-ing holidays in the snow capped areas:

Hoping this Xmas to have a week ski-ing, after the trauma of last Xmas. Having had a major op. and sitting around for 4 months resting, putting weight on. Now I feel more agile and want to do something exhilarating.

If anyone can give me advice on any ski areas anywhere. I would be pleased to know.

Two weeks ago I came back off holiday in Turkey. The resort was very quiet beginning of October. A few of us were out there to get our tapu/deed, as there has been a big holdup from the Turkish parliament. Still awaiting it.

ARE TURKS TRUSTWORTHY the heading: maybe moreso to their fellow countrymen?

I encountered trying to get water and electricity in my name for 14 months, and succeeded last time I was out. I never get a proper holiday for the stress,of sorting something out.
As this arrangement is done through the agent then through the builders, the builders were being difficult. This money for connection charges was paid 14 months previous.
I went up to their office. I gave a command performance. "I should have had an Oscar". I told them I would get my solicitor power of attorney, and one asked where the solicitor was from. I showed them the name and address in my book. "From Istanbul", I said. Knowing fine well this big fish couldn't buy his way out, as being out of their own town. I said they would have court costs, connection charges and could probably be closed down and fined a considerable amount of money.
Within 3 days it was all sorted. He came with a smile on his face and had everything done with my numbers on the connection for water and electricity, as well as giving me the Iskan. Proof I believe, of the building being built for Earthquake and building procedures.

Then I met up with a Welshman, who had been asked by an English girl in a bar to help, when A Turkish/Kurdish man was coming onto her heavily. She was a policewoman in the England. When he spoke up, he got a headbut with considerable force. His eye was red, as the blood took this direction and he was checking his teeth. Needless to say, he booked out of where he was staying, as a relative of the man who injured him worked in the place. His sentiments, "They are not ready for the E.U. yet"! "They're savage".

I met 3 Englishmen in my new apartment block. One had had a similar experience. This man was over 6' tall, he did the same and spoke up for a girl who was being harrassed in a bar by a local man. Next, all he knew was a 4 x 4 pulling up and four men got out and one had a gun at him. He said, he was absolutely petrified. a Turk/Kurd spoke up and said this was a friend. This is the quickness of a mobile phone and a lot of relations are on the spot within minutes. One emphasized, come here when there is a lot of people out, it is better for us.

Personally, I would like Turkey in the E.U. as a lot of us own properties, and we would all benefit, along with Turkey.

Then I was asked to get on the back of a scooter which I declined. My agent said just coodle him, coodle him tight,(cuddle) he is a good driver. I was afraid, nobody seems to wear crash helmets. I was frightened we may hit a bump in the road, and I would be thrown to the road. When I have been in my agents car he speeds through the town at 60mph. I don't know if there are any restrictions, like here in Britian.

One night we came out of my apartment, it was very dark, as there needs to be new roads, which they are in the process of having done during the winter. There was a seven foot drop over a manhole and water at the bottom. A child or person walking could have easily walked and fell. We got a wooden tray and covered it. Our friend reckoned a waggon could have hit the cover and it could have smashed and fell into the hole.

There were a lot of health and safety issues, I don't know what leglislation, because we have these cordoned off in Britian.. Live wires in a box suspended over a pool. No breakers in the electricity to the pump. This is from the Welshman, as he is an electrician. Plus many others, which he took photographs of.

My agent has a loaded gun, he told me they were expensive. Also I know my builder has a one. I was extremely worried when I saw one, as if I wondered to frighten. Now it does not worry me, I think it would take a lot nerve to use a one. The consequences of penalty would be high.

I have come to the conclusion, the sweet talk when talking business, and wanting payment from you, is a different matter, to when they actually have your deal. I notice the attitude changes in contrary to what we are accustomed with, as we are told "The customer is always right",
The attitude I have found is not what I expected not even comparitively like ours and becomes more dominant when they are dealing with especially women.

I put this down to experience, live and learn. Have to go with what laws the country have, which
we are in at the time. Take heed of the ways and traditions. Use what knowledge and help available.

Someone has started an advice centre in the resort to help with questions, directions and guidance. Which will be of inevitable value.

Jinggay:

I think you know the answer deep down, and you are wanting verification from us to our views.

Please give him a wide berth, he has no respect for you asking for money and he has no dignity as a man.

We have to be careful what goes on behind the smiles, the charm and look at the underlying motives. They do exist believe me!

If you sent him money, you would probably not hear from him again. As he wants you to give him in advance, and pay you back when he returns to Turkey. He is in Turkey so why can't he get it now!

Bursali, thankyou for your appreciated comment on my apartment.

Angela(Ivy)

Interest to all who want to buy property:

These last few months property has decreased in Altinkum, due to too many new builds standing empty. The builders are needing the money. I think some of the builders may be desperate.

It is an excellent time to buy if anyone is interested.

Also I notice there are not as many people buying, as they seem to have had the glut of the sales.

My properties were valued in May and when I went out in September had decreased by thousands. I still bought at a good time the year previous.

It is predominantly English living there in Altinkum. If they have tourists coming in from Germany and other European countries, then the buying will start.

I don't know if the other European countries will start and charter flights and holidays to Altinkum. They do to other resorts.

Antalya seems to get all the foreign nationals as it is an all around the year resort.

People are also buying because of investing in real estate, hoping Turkey will go in the E.U. and their property prices rise as a good investment.

English costs to Turkey by sms Orange company is 20p.

Telephone costs for info:
It was costing a lot in telephone charges as I had to speak to my agent a lot approx. £1.50 a minute, by main phone and also mobile.

Now I am on One-tel and the cost is much less, this is on a main house telephone, very surprising how lower when I get the bill in. We still pay the standing charge, line rental to British Telecom.

I have downloaded Skype and have a microphone which I believe to be a free communication.
Ideal if you both have Skype and microphones.

Hi Kelly:

Very true what you wrote on love.

The girls were asking questions which I hoped some of the men in here would answer them.

Maybe not stereo types but in certain countries, marriages are arranged without being in love, and dictated by families. Then they learn to love.

Even some European countries as my sister in law who is Cypriot stipulated her brother here in England went to look at who is now her sister in law and then arranged to be married. Same with her cousins. Without courting etc. Also in another country without falling in love I was asked by two different males to seriously get married. I had just spoken with them. One said he did not want a girl from his own country as they are lazy and liked a lot of money to spend. He was under the influence that we work hard. That there was another English girl nearby and I would have a friend of an English girl. All in the plan!

Another just talking to him was a sailor, very well off in his own country and had a beautiful speedboat etc. he got someone to say to me. Next time he came back from sea he would not go back if I lived with him. Plan again.

This same race of people, I was told by a colleague that he was friendly with a European and he was not happy because he was married to a girl from here and she worked in a shop and lived in a colliery house. He must have thought all English people live in big detached houses and are very wealthy. He told my colleague. My colleague also said he had a plan exactlty the same conclusion I came to: and he got to work in places to meet wealthier women. He worked in a hotel to try and meet a wealthy woman and then went to work in a hospital as a porter and ended up marrying a lady doctor and they are living in a very exclusive area in the North of England, in contrast to his previous wife. His plan paid off. I don't know which country he was from but he is from a country where there are 6 countries in. Work it out.

Maybe sometimes the brain takes over love.

Turkish Guys in here,

Could some of you express to Lauren and Nana and more girls the questions they ask on boyfriends. Since every man has there own individuality, there still remains the characteristics bred into the males, which seem apparent in each country but differ from country to country.

Such as: Turkish, the sweet words, the passion, the romantacism.

Looking to see whose brave to answer!

Hi Lauren

It's just a pity he couldn't read your posts here, and knew how you felt.

Hi Nana,

This is a family story: My cousin his wife and daughter went on holiday to a resort. The daughter only 16 years old met a disc jockey in the bar where they went to. When she left she was in tears parting from him. Her parents paid for her to go out and meet him a few weeks later. When she returned she was pregnant. They waited until the baby was born a boy, then she went out to live with him and then they got married out in Turkey.

It cost the parents a few hundreds of pounds to rent accommodation for them to live in. Very expensive for visits and returns home.

The girl did not have much life, she sat around the bar with the child until the early hours in the morning, as he was working all this time. She used to also get jealous of him dancing with girls as this was part of his job.

She returned home with her son as the marriage was not working out well.
He was coming over to live and his visa was being sorted out when the bombing in the city of Istanbul started. After this he decided to stay in Turkey (he was from Ankara) and worked in a resort.
I was told he was never interested in his son, a beautiful boy. Her family are really delighted by his presence, and take him everywhere.

Hi Nana,

I have tried to break down everything piece by piece.

As you said talking international calls to each other is expensive, you did not say you can text. Which is a much cheaper way to keep in touch on a regular basis.

Men are just as much devoted, reliable and emotional as us females. If he is only 17years turning 18years. You will find young males in Turkey are unadulterated and will take love more seriously.

For as reading a forum of Turkish guys being liars and womanisers, every resort in the world is prone to this. It is because they get used to females coming and going every week or so, year after year. It becomes a way of life. Your guy was not working in a resort as far as I understood.

Family plays an important role, he may not want his family to know he is interacting with someone from another country, as the Turkish guys are expected to marry a Turkish girl.

Let us know what happens nana, as I'm sure he may still be very interested by what you have said.

Can someone explain poverty in Turkey. To what extent it is.

I have heard of a Hotel Owner, keeping second cousins will this be true?

I have been told 75% of people can collect money with a card? This was told to me from a retired Turkish RAF pilot.

I know there are a lot of wealthy people in Turkey and poor also.

If you read the topic last week on Tourists going to Turkey, someone copied from a newspaper, billions of pounds have been made from Tourism??? Where is it going, We all pay £10 each to enter the country. Millions of us coming into the country each year.

There are people residing now in Turkey and look at what they will be putting into the economy. They are charged fees for staying there as I have read. Unlike here we are not kept there and don't drain their economy.

I have apartments as well as many thousands, and it has been good for council/belediye, builders, estate agents, restaurants, bars and shops and generally local employment and making a lot of people wealthy. These maybe resort areas. Many travel to work and live there for the season from other places.

I have visited a waiters home when I was looking to buy and it was situated in a beautiful area with a sea view, he had just had built two apartments above him and was asking quite a sum for each one.

What people don't realise; there is poverty in every country. America, England and many countries classed as a rich country. Eg; The Appellation Mountains in America one of the poorest places and you can see from documentaries how really poor they are. A train goes up especially at Christmas and drops off for the children.
They did not have shoes on their feet what I saw.

If someone explains some of the crisis in Turkey and enlighten me please?

Hi all,

Such beautiful love quotes, what an inspiration to us all.

Ghandi, travelled in poverty on trains and everywhere, and even wove his own tunic. To show his love of the people and did not want wealth.

What was most surprising, it cost a fortune to keep this man in poverty, which in India was very costly, as everyone had to be vetted on trains and everywhere.

I hope I haven't gone off on a different thread here, but I was sharing this interesting knowledge about him.
After reading Ghandi's love quote.

Is it possible if anyone sends you written Turkish to translate word by word using the word search in dictionary.

I did it once, and it was very much like a translation.


Angela

Hi Lyndie,

Yes, I agree with you it is abysmal living here with our grey climate.

I envied people living in South of England, because it is always a few degrees warmer than here in the North of England.

I live on the coast with the winds coming off the North Sea. I often feel I wished I were living somewhere warmer.

I feel happier in Turkey with the blue skies, penetrating heat and feel it gives our health an enormous boost. To be deflated when we come back to the chill and the rain.

How long does it take for mailing someone in Turkey to arrive at the destination in anywhere in Turkey? please.

Is it reliable.

A very complex subject:

I watch Colin Fry of the Sixth Sense daily if I can on sky channel 114. He never fails to amaze me or his audience. I don't think he has ever been accused of fraud.
He is a clairvoyant and he always starts off by saying bring our two worlds a little closer together.

His usual celebrity guest Tony Stockwell, knew he was gifted from the age of six years old. Reading from Newspaper yesterday, an old lady waived to him and he had seen her and his mother told him she had died a week earlier. At the age of sixteen after realising he had a strange insight he practiced his belief. He is held in high esteem on the programme for his clairvoyancy.

Do I believe or others??? I hold an open mind.
The police often use them to solve crimes and murders.

There was a film made in America because a woman could pinpoint on maps where girls had been murdered. She spent time in prison because she was so accurate they thought she had done the murders. I don't and can't remember the name of the film.

Myself I have never seen or experienced but work in a hospital where it was supposed to have been a burial ground years ago. While doing my nurse's training I spent time with a nightnurse in nightstation. She told me she was reading and when she looked up a lady wearing a yellow dress with blue cornflowers on came to her twice at the same time at 2 am in the morning. She was frightened at first but she had a serene smile on her face. A charge nurse came around and did a check and said whats that flickering on that door, I turned quick and caught it as well, no lights flashing. He turned and said I'm getting out of here. This is where your lady hangs out. I was petrified as she went for a supper break one night and didn't return for 2 am. I went into a dormitory and sat on one of the older patients bed in fear until she returned. I could not even go to ladies room neither.

I have had a couple of uncanny experiences, twice I had a feeling of receiving some cash. I got up one morning and some strong thought was telling me. That evening I had a small pools win. The same thing happened again I knew before I checked my pools something was lucky. Extraordinary and unexplainable.

Was this the clairvoyancy these people experience?

Angela

I discovered this singer with an orchestra 3 months ago. Patrizio Buanne (the voice of romance)

He sings in English and some Italian with passion, romance, feeling and lull in his voice. I have just gone past all my favourites and listen to him he is the ultimate I have heard. The sample open on his website is not as good as disc the I have.

Includes songs: My World
A Man Without Love
For The First Time
My Love Forgive Me

Some of his songs I think we can all identify with which makes it more inspiring.

Not many years ago a lady called Jean was disabled and had suffered from a rare form of Muscular Dystrophy since she was eighteen years old. She was now a widow, had a son who lived nearby with his wife and family.

I worked in a Day Centre and I used to pick her up in the Ambulance/mini bus twice a week. She liked to go on holidays and all she could get were people she did not know to take her usually through the Red Cross.

As my temporary position came to an end she kept asking me if I would take her on holiday, at the finish I relented and said I would, half heartedly.

We arranged to go to Icmeler in a beautiful hotel on the sea front. Everything was going alright the first few days of the two weeks.

She booked us up for a lot of excursions including a few boat trips. Jean was wheelchair bound and could walk only a few steps holding on to any aid to help. It was no problem getting on the ferries as the boatmen lifted the chair on and off with passengers willing to assist.

We came back from one excursion and she found she was having difficulty breathing, I thought it might be heat exhaustion. When we got back to the hotel I said if you like I'll send for the doctor via the representive.
The doctor came out and she was taken by ambulance to a hospital at Marmaris. Upon examination after lengthy tests the surgeon (prophet of doom) kept taking me to one side and said she had a heart complaint, and she could go at anytime. Jean was also a depressive and had been on drugs for this condition for over thirty years. After they sorted Jean out at the hospital with her heart complaint she came back with all these prescribed drugs.

I noticed the next evening while we were down for dinner she was non compus mentus. We went upstairs and she remained very confused. We had an early night but during the night she was very restless, sitting up and swaying around. I was having to catch her everytime. I got up at the finish and said, if you don't settle down you will go back to the hospital. Later at 3.00 a.m. in the morning during one of these swaying bouts she fell out of bed and ended up on the floor. I contacted the doctor who came out, a different doctor and he saw she was very agitated and couldn't settle. One of the drugs she was on had a side effect of agititation. He said if she did not settle to get the ambulance and take her back to the hospital.
As she was still restless we ended up back at the hospital. I had to lie beside her on the bed and put something the other side so she would not attempt to get up and fall out. A nice Turkish lady who was helping her daughter gave me some assistance with her. Jean settled down in the morning as the drug was wearing off. The Turkish lady when I was sitting on a seat got me up off it as I thought she wanted the seat, but she turned the chair around and made me sit and have breakfast with her. I did not expect this hospitality and it was so kind.

Jean remained in hospital for a few days and I was worried out of my mind with the surgeon saying, she can go at anytime. I prayed to God, going and walking around, asking him to, please let her go back on the plane with me. She did not want me to ring her son, but I rang him as if anything had happened her, he would not have been happy that I had not informed him. He said, that he couldn't do anything at this end and left it up to me. Also asked if she had she been gadding about! doing too much in a short time.

She was telling me everyday to stay by the pool all morning and not to come until the afternoon. I was first down for breakfast and was in the hospital for 7.30sm. It was a relief when I saw her alive in bed. This happened for a few days, the apprehension of visiting her to see what health she was in. I was still praying and I am not partial to praying. She came out after a few days and I was very happy we went back to the hotel by taxi.

It was difficult at times managing our suitcases and the wheelchair, but I was the happiest person on the plane, especially when she reached home safely. I had to give her doctor a letter from the Turkish surgeon.

She asked if I would take her to Spain 5 months later, had that episode put me off. I said nothing is going to happen to you next time. Spain also has good medical care and it is highly regarded.

We went to Fuengirola and this holiday did not present any problems at all. We visited Gibralter, saw the barbary apes. Nerja, which was a nice Spanish village. We were told of a nearby place up in the mountains called Mijas and it was worth a visit. I said we will get the bus which meant a change at the main depot in Fuengirola. She looked very hesitantly and we went the next day. She boarded the bus with a bit push up the steps from me. I folded her wheelchair and the driver put it in the hold. It was an amazing charming village at the top of the mountain. We were first back on the bus as the inspector saw she was in a wheelchair and gave us priority on board.
She later said "I would go anywhere with you" she said she wouldn't go anywhere with her husband. I said , why is that and she said he wouldn't know which direction to go in. I told her I'm not frightened to ask also I knew her capabilities on boarding the bus with assistance.
We were sitting with two widowed sisters in the evening and they were telling a couple whose husband was also in a wheelchair that I had took her on an ordinary bus and they were flabbergasted. Jean at first wanted to go by proper excursion, but put her trust in me.
I mainly enjoyed this holiday as there were no problems only going to clubs, bars having our 10 am coffee, shopping, going around a Spanish market and having lunch out in a nice restaurant.
The highlight that made us enjoy the holiday was the resident singer Carmen and her husband the organist Mauritzio. I used to go back down after I took Jean back to bed as the music and singing were excellent and it was splendid to watch residents ballroom dancing.

Jean died the following February four months after her second holiday. She said a few times she wouldn't be able to go on holiday again. It seemed as though she had an idea it was her last one.

Angela

I would just like to write a bit about Richard Burton as he had one of the most Distinctive and Memorable voices of all time.

His mentor/teacher Philip Burton who Richard changed his surname from Jenkins to Burton who adopted Richard. Philip worked on Richards voice. He took Richard to the top of the Welsh mountains and made him speak parts of Henry V. Philip wallked further away insisting that Richard did not shout but make his voice heard.
Richard realised that distinctiveness mattered, not volume.

His amazing good looks and able to read VERSE as Richard was an ardent reader and hungry for words made him one of the great actors of all time.

He had such magnetism and made films such as "Where Eagles Dare", "The Wild Geese", "Cleopatra" and "The Longest Day" is only a trickle of all the countless films he made.

Hi Carla,

I know I gave you an answer and advice to move on.

I read your topic again, and I have also sent mail to Turkey and it hasn't arrived at the destination. People have told me to get someone to carry mail across or put contents in a brown envelope as if a business letter and that seems to reach the destination.

I think any mails I send in future I would send by registered post to ensure its arrival safely.
Angela (ivy)

Hi Bliss and Flower,

If you go to "Absolutely Altinkum" forum these questions come up. If she puts the question under the correct topic someone will answer very quickly. There are very knowledgeable people on there, who know all the procedures and costs. Many are estate agents who can advise.

Best of luck

Angela

Hi Elisa and everyone to share info:

I have just bought a microphone, so will download to Skype.

There is a new telephone which you need to buy and fits in computer and one can ring anywhere in the world free of charge. Telephone is about £25 - £35 English pounds.

Angela

Can anyone tell me something if you are on B.T. Broadband you can speak to anywhere in the world with computer and it doesn't cost anything??

If anyone knows please share information.

Angela

Hi Duskahvesi,

I've been thinking this also: my thoughts:

It just seems to happen we don't seem to have any control. Its as though we didn't use our brains and our heart sunk into the mire.

It is normal to pair off male and female; birds and animals do it and produce.

When looking back at who we fell in love with at the time it seems, sometimes what did I see in that person! I'm pleased it didn't come to anything. I think we have all experienced this!

In many countries where the family choose arranged marriages or both partners go and see if they would like to marry for suitabilty: seems in the majority of cases to work well. So they seem to learn to love on these grounds.

I think it is important to feel deeply loved, I feel that is very important to me. Better still if you find your soul mate and are always together.

People can become case hardened if they have been hurt so badly.

Hi Duskhavesi,

I am Church of England. Not Catholic.

Mental illness people who suffer from it are not born with it. It can be various factors which set it off say something like post natal depression. The very worst depression is manic depression and takes a lot of patience medication and time. We can also suffer this from traumatic experience as a marriage breakup etc. This comes under a Psychiatric hospital and patients are treat by a psychiatrist.

Where Learning Disability (new term) subnormal, retard: are born this way. I work in this hospital, birth trauma can cause it amongst other things. These patients are treat by psychologists.

"Falling in Love" the mental strain can be very stressful coping with various emotions. It can be physical, nerve racking, loss of appetite and sleep. Wondering what partner is doing sometimes of trust. All that preys on the mind is that person, can't switch off from feelings. Can't wait for next meeting. It rules happiness, sadness, physical and mental attraction, jealousy, possessiveness, trust to name a few.

I admire Mel Gibson famous actor and now producer and director. He is extremely handsome and charismatic and always looks exceptionally happy.

My main admiration is because he has been married to the same women for many years as they are now in middle age and they have six daughters and now a young son of 8 years. Although he has worked opposite some of the most beautiful women in hollywood and who may have propositioned him he has never betrayed his wife Robyn who was a nurse when they met.

He is a devout Catholic and wanted to become a priest so I wonder if that has anything to do with his fidelity.

Abgela

Stephen Hawking one of our top scientists, as believed to be nearest to Einstein calculations. Believes the world has always been there.

Watching documentaries on the universe the world is expanding millions of miles each day. In many years time (can't remember) but it is calculated with expansion that the world will be in complete darkness.

It might be interesting to read Stephen Hawking's books on the universe. He has been suffering from motor neuron disease for many years.

I've watched documentaries on the big bang also.

I liked the film "The Deerhunter" with Robert de Niro and Christopher Walken, seen it a few times over the years.
The Russian Roulette was quite
frightening and also when they were held captives in a cage in water looking for escape.


I also liked "One flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" with Jack Nicholson, working and admitted in a mental hospital.
Quite a
gripping actor in his roles.

"As good as it gets" with Jack Nicholson was another film of his where he was intolerant of his gay neighbour's friends and dog. Then he became very attached to the dog at the finish.

Go to a Russian forum?

Angela