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Thread: Diyarbakir

1091.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 05:52 pm

There was a "Çiftlik lokantası" in Ofis, near the post office. Is it still there? There was a place called selim amcanın sofra salonu and a few lahmacun shops on the corner (Ofis Köşesi) where you turn from Ofis to Şehitlik.

Eğer Çiftlik Lokantası hala duruyorsa orada yemek yerken lavaş ekmeği isteyin. Bu ince ekmeklerle küçük dürümler yaparak çatal kullanmadan yemek orada gelenekseldir. Keyifli de oluyor aslında.



Thread: Order of suffixes

1092.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 05:10 pm

They are two different things:

sevseydin: if you had loved (narrative of "conditional tense", expresses unreality)
Burasını sevseydin tatile buraya gelirdik.
If you had loved this place we would have come here. (but you didnt love).

In winmekmak
Choose from upper list (green list): condition (-se) +
Choose from lower list (purple list): imperfect (-di)

As you see winmekmak is listing 9 simple tenses. The upper list includes five simple tenses and 4 additional tenses.
From the upper list if you choose only "conditional tense" (se): gitse, gitsen, gitsem, ... (if he goes, if you go, if I go,...)

******************************************************
sevdiysen: if you have loved (past tense condition)
Burasını sevdiysen tatile buraya gelebiliriz.
If you have loved this place we can come here for holiday.

In winmekmak
Choose from upper list: past (di) +
Choose from lower list: conditional (-se)

I suggest to work on the upper list first. These are the basic tenses and then with the lower list you make compound tenses with these.








Thread: etmeki pişirme

1093.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 04:12 pm

Hi bod,
now I see what you mean but I don't know any name for herbs.

Maydanoz, dere otu,... gibi bitkiler için halk arasında kullanılan genel bir isim bilen var mı?

Bod, bu durumda "maydanozlu ekmek" veya "otlu ekmek" denilebilir.

Maydanoz konusundaki uzmanlarımıza sormak lazım bunu.



Thread: I. Mastar Hali - The Infinitive

1094.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 04:03 pm

There is no difference bod. Feel free to use both versions.



Thread: A short story for Turkish learners

1095.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 02:15 am

Quoting ladywriter:

Great practice for beginners...also loved the illustrations! Is there a way I can see the answers to the study questions, without downloading anything?



Yes of coures there is a way. You type your answers and I (or somebody else) will check them.



Thread: Mixing verb tenses

1096.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 02:12 am

Hi bod,
in short
1. we have the five tenses you mentioned.
2. In addition to these the compound tenses are made either with -di (past tense) or -miş (reported/inferential past tense).
3. In addition we have Obtative Tense/Mood, Necessitative Tense/Mood, Subjunctive Tense/Mood, Conditional Tense/Mood. To see these last three as tenses or moods doesnt make a difference. Bilkent university shows them as tenses (see below link) while others follow the traditional way and show them as verb moods.

On this page double click on items you want to check.
http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~guvenir/CATT/GrammarTutor/

winmekmak has actually everything you need.


mood: Grammar. A set of verb forms or inflections used to indicate the speaker's attitude toward the factuality or likelihood of the action or condition expressed. In English the indicative mood is used to make factual statements, the subjunctive mood to indicate doubt or unlikelihood, and the imperative mood to express a command.
souce: answers.com

Answers.com has a nice alt+left click feature that works everywhere.



Thread: Diyarbakir

1097.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 02:01 am

I don't think its terrorism. I have lived there many years and the city is a safe place. But you must not go too far away from the center. The problem is that its not a good place for young girls. Not very good especially for European young girls.

Male-female relationships in this area are still a taboo. The city is strictly a conservative place but not in religious terms. It's conservarite in terms of traditions.
It could be OK if you take care a little on your wearings and other things when outside.



Thread: Links for Turkish Literature

1098.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 12:19 am

corrected now.



Thread: Verbal Nouns

1099.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 12:17 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

The examples underneath, the nouns 'gülen' etc, aren't they actually like 'participles'?

Quoting erdinc:

gülen polis - laughing policeman
uçan domuz - flying pig
konuşan bebek - talking doll



I switched my phone into Turkish, never understood the words 'gelenler' and 'gidenler' in the section 'mesajlar'. But now i read this thread, i think they are participles meaning:

gidenler: those that go (messages to be sent)
gelenler: those that come (incoming messages)

Can someone tell me if this is right and if the word-examples are participles? That would mean i have covered a new topic of grammar



Yes. You understood it perfectly. A verbal adjective is a participle while a verbal adverb is called gerund. A few times, also in my above post, I used the term participle for verbal adjectives.

giden mesajlar : outgoing messages
gelen mesajlar : incoming messages

giden yolcu: outgoing passenger
gelen yolcu: incoming passenger



Thread: I. Mastar Hali - The Infinitive

1100.       erdinc
2151 posts
 30 Jan 2006 Mon 12:09 am

I teach Turkish in London and I can ensure you that most lecturers who work in colleges and universities here don't speak Turkish very well.

Even in GCSE Turkish tests that were written by some of them, there are obvious mistakes. Most of these guys (Especially for London) are Cypriots who have been living in the UK for 20 years and have forgotton proper Turkish long ago.



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