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Thread: Tenses inTurkish

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erdinc
2151 posts

07 Feb 2006 Tue 12:39 pm

ceviz,
thank you. Both mistakes are now corrected.

Thread: Sümen alti etmek....

1062.

erdinc
2151 posts

06 Feb 2006 Mon 11:58 pm

Yes it has to do with delaying an action or desicion regarding official issues.

http://www.tdk.gov.tr/TDKSOZLUK/sozbul.ASP?Kelime=%20sÃ¼men%20altı%20etmek

This is what TDK suggests:
1 . Bir evrakın işleme konulmasını engellemek.
2 . Bir işin yapılmasını geciktirmek.

1. Preventing a document to be processed
2. Causing delay on some work

If you make a yahoo image search for sÃ¼men you will see the actual object. It is a flat leather desk accessory which you put on the desk. It is common to keep papers underneath it. The idiom is derived from this object.

Thread: Atlar ve çitim

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erdinc
2151 posts

05 Feb 2006 Sun 05:50 pm

Quote:

Why "hala" and not "hÃ¢lÃ¢".

You are right bod. It would be correct to write it with the circumflex.
More importantly the pronounciation of hala (aunt) and hÃ¢lÃ¢ (still) is very different. With the circumflex (uzatma işareti) the sound of the vowel becomes longer (haalaa). But to pronounce them differently do we really need to write them differently as well? Isn't it already clear from the context which one it is?
The answer of the official institution of Turkish Language (TDK) is "no". They say we should include the circumflex in written language as well. So, I'm writing the word incorrectly.
There is a rumor about the TDk. People say once the TDK announced the circumflex to be removed but TDK declared that they didnt make such an official announcement.

Thread: Can anyone help me to translate this little poem UK-TUR

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erdinc
2151 posts

05 Feb 2006 Sun 11:38 am

Quote:

Eyes dark as night, always sparkling with stars
Whether angry, sad, joyfull or loving
I'm looking in the eyes of G

Touching the core of my heart
Setting free feelings long forgotten
Just wishing to be near her
I'm looking in the eyes of G

Both living separate lives
Both feeling mixed emotions
Both afraid of what's to come
I'm looking in the eyes of G

Separated by what is
United by what might be
Sad to be far apart
I'm looking in the eyes of G

Very thankfull for meeting her
Always sad missing her
Every moment thinking of her
Truly touched by an angel called G

Most translations in these forums are ordinary texts. Like an ordinary phone call, like an ordinary speech, they have the bitter taste of ordinary days we live in our reasonable lives. Rarely anything exciting happens. Then suddenly we see an unusual text from time to time. Yours was one of these rare posts. When I saw it I only tought about the music I was going to listen during the work.

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İster kızgın olsun ister Ã¼zgÃ¼n, neşeli ya da sevgi dolu
Gece kadar kapkara gÃ¶zler parlar her zaman yıldızlarla
Bakıyorum G'nin gÃ¶zlerinin iÃ§ine

Dokunurken kalbimin en derin yerine
Salıverirken Ã§oktandır unutulmuş duyguları
Tek dileğimken onun yanında olabilmek
Bakıyorum G'nin gÃ¶zlerinin iÃ§ine

Yaşarken ikimiz de apayrı hayatlar
İÃ§indeyken ikimiz de karmaşık duyguların
Korkuyorken ikimiz de yakında olacaklardan
Bakıyorum G'nin gÃ¶zlerinin iÃ§ine

GerÃ§ekte olanlar bizi ayırırken
Birleştirirken olabilirlikler
Acı verirken bÃ¶yle uzakta olmak
Bakıyorum G'nin gÃ¶zlerinin iÃ§ine

Onu tanıdığıma Ã§ok memnun
Yanında olamadığıma hep Ã¼zgÃ¼n
Her an onu dÃ¼şÃ¼nÃ¼yorken
Tılsımıyla doldurdu kalbimi bir melek, ismi G

Thread: Türkçe yemek

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erdinc
2151 posts

05 Feb 2006 Sun 11:05 am

Quoting bod:

What does daha mean in this context?
Why aldik and not eindik???

Daha stands together with Ã¶nce. Ã–nce (before) is unsuitable for the sentence.
"Ben senden Ã¶nce geldim."
"I have come before you."

"Daha Ã¶nce" means "until now" or "so far".

Quote:

"We have not cooked Turkish food before but we recently aquired a Turkish cookery book"
"edindik" is OK but aldık or "satın aldık" would sound better.
Why the present continuous tense - the smell of good cooking is not just of this moment......hence why I thought the aorist tense would be more appropriate.

I thought you were talking about this particular food. If you use aoirist tense you will have created a new saying or idiom. Obviously it will lose all connection with the current situation.

"GÃ¼zel yemek pişerken de gÃ¼zel kokar."
"A nice food smells nice while cooking."

Quote:

What is pişerken???

pişerken: "while it cooks"

Quote:

I assume the -ken gerund but that would be "pişirirken" wouldn't it? Besides that would transalate as "While she is cooking it smells beautiful" wouldn't it?

pişirirken: "while somebody is cooking it"
This is not as suitable as pişerken. It tells the time while somebody was cooking a food. So it attaches the action to somebody doing an active work. "pişerken" is better because I'm not talking about a persons action but I'm tlking about the food.

"Yemeği pişirirken gÃ¼zel kokuyor."
It smells nice while I cook it. (but it smells bad after I have finished cooking)

Quote:

What I attempted to say in English was:
"The cooking smells very nice"

"Yemek pişerken Ã§ok gÃ¼zel kokuyor" (The food smells nice while it cooks) is the best translation I can find to this sentence. I can't find anything that we use for "the cooking".

We just say things in different ways. You need to accept the Turkish way without fighting with it. The way we express things is different than English. There is nothing to d about this. If you want to pick the differences a lifetime will be insufficient to cover them all.

A Turk when learning English has smillar problems. I think the best approach is to pretend not seeing the differences when they occur.

Thread: Türkçe yemek

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erdinc
2151 posts

04 Feb 2006 Sat 10:23 pm

The correct sentences would be:

Akşama kız arkadaşım TÃ¼rk yemeği pişiriyor.

Daha Ã¶nce TÃ¼rk yemeği pişirmedik ama geÃ§enlerde yeni bir yemek kitabı aldık.

Yemek pişerken gÃ¼zel kokuyor.

Thread: Türkçe yemek

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erdinc
2151 posts

04 Feb 2006 Sat 09:48 pm

Merhaba bod,
başlık "TÃ¼rk Yemeği" olmalıydı.

TÃ¼rkÃ§e means Turkish Language. If you decide to open a new thread I will remove this one.

Thread: Atlar ve çitim

1068.

erdinc
2151 posts

04 Feb 2006 Sat 08:12 pm

There are still no images in your posts......
"Mesajlarında hala resim yok."

Thread: Is this correct?

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erdinc
2151 posts

04 Feb 2006 Sat 07:56 pm

lazım:
1. is necessary
2. is needed

Bira almak lazım.
literally: There is a need to buy (some) beer.

Bira almam lazım.
I need to buy some beer.

-ma is also called the short infinitive.

Thread: görüşmeyeli çok oldu

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erdinc
2151 posts

04 Feb 2006 Sat 07:22 pm

Your translation is good. Another alternative would be "long time no see" as gÃ¶rÃ¼şmeyeli is more likely to see each other. One the phone one might say "konuşmayalı uzun zaman oldu".

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