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Thread: turkish to english....please and thank you very much :)

3691.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 13 May 2011 Fri 09:29 pm

bo as bööööö? 



Thread: Asian women subjected to ´virginity tests´ at Heathrow

3692.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 13 May 2011 Fri 03:52 am

It seems dark ages are still attractive for some westerners too. It is also a relief they didn´t burn the women accusing them of being a witch.



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Thread: Baldaki Tuz

3693.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 05 May 2011 Thu 12:12 am

"Baldaki Tuz" is a book that contains some of Yaşar Kemal´s articles about politics of Turkey between 1960 and 1971. Here is a short translation of a part of his article which criticises Democrat Party. Date of the article is 1960.

 

"....Lets think about the period after 1945. Those who had opposed The Court Of Justice had such a beautiful and advenced democracy understanding at that time. They were always mentioning  human and citizens’ rights. A little bit later they suddenly changed. As if they were not the same people back in 1945-1950. They changed their skins like snakes.

Human rights, democracy were just mere words for them. They didnt believe in justice, laws, human and citizens’ rights. They had no respect and faith for them. They were prisoning people who had first come to their minds and torturing them. They were holding them in the prisons of courts for two years.

They were proudly harming intellectuals and journalists in front of the eyes of the public. Many people were tortured and rotted in prisons in their period. They did everything to make courts their slaves..."


 



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Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3694.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 04 Apr 2011 Mon 10:44 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

Have you ever thought that perhaps Turks are to sensitive about Ataturk? He was a man, nothing more, nothing less. This is not a list about horrible people. It is a list about dictators who had a mustache. Simple. And Ataturk fits that discription. I think it is silly for the mass media to be angry about this list, like the first article said. I think it´s about time that people in Turkey start treating him like a human being instead of this untouchable god-like figure. I don´t think he was Hitler, I don´t think he was Stalin, but I do think he was a dictator with a mustache. Hm...perhaps it´s not even what I think, but an actual fact. Why does everybody have to treat Ataturk like you can´t state facts about him? For example, it´s a fact that Ataturk was something close to an alcoholic. But when I state this fact inside Turkish borders people get angry with me. Why?

 

1) Yes we are sensitive about Ataturk. He founded modern Turkey. He saved our country from being a mandate.

2) The dictators in the list such as Hitler, Stalin, Franco, Saddam Hüseyin were horrible people. So this list is about horrible people.

3) I agree Ataturk was a human being. But in the history of men there are many figures people take as a model or idol. I have many idols such as Spartacus, Leonidas, Che, Socrates, Rachel Corrie. Atatürk is also one of them. There is nothing wrong about it. Yes, he was a human but not an ordinary one.

4) As I said before dictatore word has only negative meanings today. So to call Atatürk as a dictatore is unfair.

5) I am never against facts. Ataturk was drinking too much alcohol. I agree with that.

6) People can get angry with you because when you think you are saying the facts maybe you are saying your personal thoughts that others don´t agree.



Edited (4/4/2011) by gokuyum



Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3695.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 04 Apr 2011 Mon 08:12 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

Pfff... he was a dictator, he wore a mustache. That means he fits in the list. That the mass media is upset is just silly. The piece about him is nice, matching is mustache style with the stage he was in in his political life

 

Read it here: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/03/30/stiff_upper_

 

Ataturk was not a Hitler or Stalin. He doesnt belong to that list. You can´t catogarize him this easily. He was a very unique person. If you want to learn more about him here is a very objective biography of him by Andrew Mango



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Thread: E to T

3696.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Apr 2011 Sat 11:12 pm

 

Quoting deli

why the heck cant I enter chattttttttttttt room

 

try again

 



Thread: E to T

3697.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Apr 2011 Sat 11:02 pm

 

Quoting deli

 

 

 maybe

olumlu durmalıyım

 

We dont say such a thing so i can´t translate it literally but it can be translated as "iyimserliğimi korumalıyım"

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Thread: Murder of children renews debate over death penalty in Turkey

3698.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Apr 2011 Sat 06:24 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Turkish Minister for Industry and Trade casts light on the status of capital punishment. Below is translated from the online edition of daily Hurriyet. There is an obvious flaw with this train of thought which is imported from the EU. Even if someone is caught red handed, there is no way to subject him to capital punishment. 

 

THERE IS NO GOING BACK

Capital punishment is back on the agenda in Turkey and particularly in Kayseri following the outbreak of the news on murder of the kidnapped children in the province.

 

Minister Ergun thinks one of the major concerns that lead to the abolishing of the capital punishment in Turkey was the probability of false convictions. He said there are instances where a document found 10 years after the execution that might prove the innocence of a suspect but there is of course no going back after execution. He said this point has induced a trend against capital punishment in the world. Since Turkey acts in line with the EU principles, capital punishment is also abolished in Turkey.

 

"IT IS NOT THAT CERTAIN CRIMINALS DON´T DESERVE DEATH SENTENCE."

"There are crimes justifying capital punishment in the world´s societies but since there can be false convitions, and some people can be proven innocent after years, we can restore justice to those affected by false convitions at least with a delay.


 

If you kill a murderer, you will be a murderer too. Death penalty is a bigger crime against humanity than murder. Because you torture criminal with that sentence spiritually, mentally and physically. Nobody can  easily live with knowing when he/she will die. This is the real hell for a human being. To sentence someone to death is more cruel than murdering someone. There is an excellent novel of Victor Hugo about death sentence. Its name is "The Last Day of a Condemned Man  " (Bir İdam Mahkumunun Son günü. You will understand why death sentence is a crime against humanity clearly after you read it.

 



Thread: Test takers forced to remove headscarves in Ankara

3699.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 29 Mar 2011 Tue 10:37 pm

 

Quoting tunci

Test takers forced to remove headscarves in Ankara

29 March 2011, Tuesday / TODAY’S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL

Some students with headscarves, who sat for Sunday’s YGS exam in Ankara, became distressed when they were forced to take their headscarves off

Headscarf-wearing students who took the national university admission examination at Batıkent High School in the capital yesterday were forced to remove their headscarves, reports said yesterday.
 

A total of 1,692,345 candidates took the Transition to Higher Education Examination (YGS) yesterday. Security was tight at the entrances of schools across Turkey, as officers frisked the test takers in the aftermath of a cheating scandal in a similar examination.

Individual searches and tight security at entrances were stressful enough for the students, but the most demoralizing moment for female students wearing headscarves taking the exam at the school was when they were asked to remove their headscarves, despite a directive from the Student Selection and Placement Center (ÖSYM), which organizes the YGS, saying that headscarved students should be allowed into examination rooms. Dispirited students were seen crying outside the building, as many female students removed their headscarves to take the test.

Vahide Yalçın, a senior at an imam hatip high school a vocational school offering Islamic education, said she did remove her headscarf but didn’t do well on the test because the situation was too distressing. “The teacher there told me that I needed to take off my headscarf. They said they would report me if I didn’t. They told me, ‘What’s the big deal, just take it off.’ So I went outside, cried for a bit and came back, but it didn’t go really well in that situation.”

Another test taker who was subject to the same treatment, Yeşim Öz, said: “After we entered the classroom, teachers at the school came to every class and told us to take off our headscarves. So we did. If we had objected there would have been problems. They said there was a law about this, but that it had been changed.”

Girl stopped by security

Another student who had to deal with Batıkent High School’s anti-headscarf treatment was Ayşenur Turucu, who was told by the school’s security that they couldn’t let her in with her headscarf. “They told me, ‘We can’t let you in. The building’s manager doesn’t want us to.’ I asked for a written order showing that I couldn’t enter, but they couldn’t produce such a document. I tried to talk to the person in charge, but that wasn’t possible, either. Many other girls removed their headscarves and went in, but I didn’t just because they wanted me to.”

Meanwhile, conservative families outside the school prayed and recited the Quran, extending spiritual support to the students. Some students were extremely nervous. Derya Tuncer had a panic attack for which an ambulance was called to her designated school in Samsun.

 

There are so many spider minded people who are still judging people with their outward appearence, Let people wear whatever they want to wear. Such a discrimination. If women are allowed to take exams with mini skirts surely they should be allowed to take exam with their headscarf.

 

If extremists didnt used headscarves as flags of the Islamic ruling, this kind of problems would never occur. Everybody has a right to choose what to wear. Women became victims because of men.

 



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Thread: eng /turk luften :) xxx

3700.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 29 Mar 2011 Tue 01:22 am

 

Quoting ahalliwell

hi , i am not trying to be funny so please don´t take offence , but i am quite confused as i dont know you . yet you keep contacting me and asking me questions what i have no answer to. are you a friend of someone i know ? if so please tell me who it is , it would make things alot easier .

 

cok tesekkurler to whom helps me out xx

 

Selam. Komik olmaya çalışmıyorum, lütfen alınma. Ama seni tanımadığım için kafam karışık. Hala benimle temasa geçip cevaplarına sahip olmadığım sorular soruyorsun. Tanıdığım birinin arkadaşı mısın? Eğer öyleyse onun kim olduğunu söyle. Bu, işleri daha kolaylaştırırdı.



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