Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Forum Messages Posted by erdinc

(1958 Messages in 196 pages - View all)
<<  ... 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 [31] 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 ...  >>


Thread: wages

301.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 11:21 pm

Quoting Seticio:

but someone who has 3000YTL debt jus didn't think at all while spending money...



You are right on this but it gets out of control without you even realising. With time you start ignoring your debts. You start pretending they don't exist or you can manage them.
I don't want to tell you how bad I did but it was very very bad. At the time, a few years ago there was no limit on number of credit cards you could get from different banks. I was worse than the people you describe as "who don't think at all".
I know many people who were in smillar situations.



Thread: about the future tense

302.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 10:18 pm

The explanation on that website isn't very good if it is as you say. The negative suffix is -me,-ma and is used in many tenses. The letter y is a buffer letter and is there to prevent two vowels coming next to each other.

gör - me - y - ecek - im (I won’t see.)
gör - me - y - ecek - sin (You won’t see.)
gör - me - y - ecek (S/he/it won’t see.)
gör - me - y - ecek - iz (We won’t see.)
gör - me - y - ecek - ler (You won’t see.)
gör - me - y - ecek - siniz (They won’t see.)

gör: verb stem of infinitive görmek
me: negative suffix
y: buffer letter
ecek: future tense suffix
im,sin etc. : personal suffixes

'k' in 'ecek' becomes 'ğ' when followed by a vowel.

There is no -meye or maya suffix in Turkish.



Thread: I just wonder...

303.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 10:09 pm

Why would a Turkish man say "I love you" to a foreign man? It is extremely uncommon.



Thread: wages

304.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 10:04 pm

In Turkia getting a credit card is very easy but using a credit card can be very troublesome.

You almost need nothing. The banks are doing everthing to give you a credit card. They are giving away credit cards on a desk on pavements as pedestrians are passing by. I'm not kidding.

On the other hand using a credit card can be very troublesome in Turkia. The banks charge too much interest.

One way or another, following this trick or that trick at the end it is always the same story. They charge you %10 per month. I know people who spend lots of money every month just to pay the interest.

If you owe the bank 3000 YTL (and there are thousands of people who owe that much) then you pay 300 YTL interest every month. If you earn 1000 YTL a month thats a huge money and with the remaining money you can hardly live let alone paying your main debt.

Too many people have commited suicide just because credit card debts.



Thread: So Do You

305.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 07:32 pm

Yes, "sen de öyle" or "ben de öyle" applies to both noun sentences and verb sentences. Of course you could repeat the prdicate instead adding 'öyle' and it would be slightly better.



Thread: So Do You

306.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 07:21 pm

"sen de öyle" can be used in this case.

-Bugün çok güzelsin. (You are very beautiful today)
-Sen de öyle. (You too as well)

-Sinirimi bozuyorsun. (You too as well).
-Sen de öyle. (So do you).

Canlı,
You are right when saying just "sen de" or "ben de" there is a lack of definition and it would be nice to repeat the prdicate but instead you can use öyle (like this, like that).



Thread: hoş geldniz or hoşgeldiniz?

307.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 07:13 pm

Yes, you are right about the confusion. There is a big discussion going on on two word terms.





Thread: wages

308.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 06:54 pm

Quoting vonnyz:

You can get charged for not filing the income tax.



There is no economical punishment in Turkia for economical crimes which is a very big problem. 16 year boys who were starving took a few sweets from a shop and they were sentenced more than a bussinessman who bankrupted his own bank and made the government pay billions.



Thread: wages

309.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 06:51 pm

Greetings,
I found new figures about income levels. The biggest worker's union Türk-iş makes researches on this issue for years. They have two income limits that they keep updated.

One is "açlık sınırı" (starvation limit) and the other is
"yoksulluk sınırı" (poverty limit) of income.

According their researches %18 of the population lives under starvation limit and %37 lives under the poverty limit.
The poverty limit is 1867 YTL per family.

If they don't start collecting income tax and if they don't start setting economical law sentences to economical crimes (this is rarely the case) then the poor will get poorer by these indirect taxes.

The only thing that is relatively cheap in Turkia is bread. When I buy bread in Turkia I sometimes see people buying five or more breads. They have nothing better to eat than bread.

Many local authorities in Turkia have founded bread factories. They have hundreds of small shops all over the city where they sell cheaper bread.

Here is one example. They are the biggest in İstanbul in this field.
"established by the İstanbul Great City Municipality"
http://www.ihe.com.tr/english/default.asp

Here is one from Ankara:
http://www.ankhalkekmek.com.tr/main.asp

The poor people don't understand anything from income levels or from income tax or from indirect taxes. The only thing they understand are the price of bread. If the price is good they will again vote for the same party.



Thread: wages

310.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Aug 2006 Fri 06:16 pm

This is a good question. It is also a popular discussion in Turkia. There are statistics on this issue. The main source is Devlet İstatistik Enstitüsü (The Official Institute of Statistics).

This is their offical website in English:
http://www.turkstat.gov.tr/

Here are latest figures:
http://www.die.gov.tr/english/SONIST/sonist.html

Here is "The Results of Income Distribution"
http://www.die.gov.tr/ENGLISH/SONIST/GELIR/gelir.html

Here is the latest statistics on this issue:
http://www.die.gov.tr/ENGLISH/SONIST/GELIR/k_270206.xls

They are deviding the total population to quintile (a fifth of total). The richest quintile gets %46 of national total income and the poorest gets %6.

In other words, when considering the total incomes in Turkia for a year, half of it goes to %22 of the population and the other half goes to %78.



(1958 Messages in 196 pages - View all)
<<  ... 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 [31] 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 ...  >>



Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
Why yer gördüm but yeri geziyorum
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, makes perfect sense!
Etmeyi vs etmek
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Görülmez vs görünmiyor
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, very well explained!
Içeri and içeriye
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Present continous tense
HaydiDeer: Got it, thank you!
Hic vs herhangi, degil vs yok
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Rize Artvin Airport Transfer - Rize Tours
rizetours: Dear Guest; In order to make your Black Sea trip more enjoyable, our c...
What does \"kabul ettiğini\" mean?
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Kimse vs biri (anyone)
HaydiDeer: Thank you!
Random Pictures of Turkey
Most commented