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Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1381.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 12:19 am

Quoting erdinc:

Our Supreme Court has ruled that the first round of prime minister elections are invalid.
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/406777.asp

What this means is that Islamic politician Abdullah Gül won't become the new president.

The presidency is a critical place for Islamic politicians because it has the power to assign supreme court members and university presidents.

Islamic politics is very easy to understand. This is what they want to do step by step:

1. Critical administrative units will be occupied by Islamic rooted people. (this has already happened in most areas. Imams are in charge on top positions of eduactional departments or healt departments or even on fire department. Everywhere you see them. These days you can't even become a headteacher in any local school in Turkia if you are not close to Islamic politics).

2. headscarf will be allowed at universities for students. That will be the breaking point if it happens.

3. headscarf will be allowed for lecturers at universities

4. headscarf will be allowed for teachers at public schools

5. headscarf will be allowed at secondary schools for students

6. headscarf will be allowed at primary schools for students. Imagine even one generation (10 years) kids growing with the religious education, all brain washed.

A few years ago I was a teacher in a school in Ankara and there comes this new maths teacher into the teachers room wearing a headscarf. We were all shocked and told her that she can't go into the classroom like that. She become mad and said she was a ring of a chain and would fight for their ideas and didn't care for the rules not even for the constitution. Off course she was reported and dismissed from the job.

7. weekend days will be changed to friday and saturday so it will include the holy friday.

8. Working hours will be changed according praying times.

9. Number of prayer rooms (mescit) will increase in official departments.

10. Islamic marriage (imam nikahı ) will become legal and equal to official marriage.

11. Polygamy will become legal. Already many of the AK party members have multiple wives.

12. Alcohol will be banned.

13. Wearing swimsuits will be banned for females.

14. Islamic police department will be established.

Edit:
I forgot to mention what would happen if the Islamists would get the presidency. The president has the power to assign presidents of all state universities and members of our central higher education administration. So everthing would be set to allow headscarf in universities.



This is called intention reading.

- This government never told anything about headscarf.

- Noone can say that headscarfed people are 2nd class people.

- AKP is not an Islamist group exactly. If you say they were Islamist, you fail all the other Islam ideas.

- Any government cannot carry out your list even if they wanted. And I think you are talking as if we had never lived a military action before. Even a little action about headscarf, or alcohol ban, or Islamic any application like police, imam marriage, swimsuit, imam teacher etc. makes military move without asking anyone. Everyone knows it, this government know it, and you know it too. We know what Erbakan said. Erdoğan has never had radical speeches since they founded AKP. He always say: "We want peace, stability, trust, and a better Turkey" and many of the movements are this way. Maybe there were some individual talks of parliamenters, but they can't be said that "they want an Islamic system for Turkey". Look at the statistics, which government was so succesful in the last 50 years? Which government could show the defraudations of the previous sessions? Which government's Turkey has as much as this number of happy people?

I have no doubt that their claim is NOT an Islamic or religious administration. This is very clear that you are trying to make people be afraid of this government. Please be fair! Talk about their actions, but not mention the UNPERFORMED THINGS.



Thread: mütlülük (bliss)

1382.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 04:54 pm

Do you mean "mutluluk" ü's without points?



Thread: hastane

1383.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 04:39 pm

Quoting cooldude:

So why can't you say yarın hastane gitmeliyorum ?????



gitmeliyim

-meli can't be used with tenses generally. Only past tense can be ok, but it has a different meaning.

gitmeliydim or gitmeliymişim (but you didn't go)

gitmeliyim can be used. Do you ask about my explanations?



Thread: hersey yolundadir umarim...

1384.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 04:00 pm

Evet, her şey yolunda

(her and şey are separated)



Thread: olarak........

1385.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 03:50 pm

Tek tek basaraktan
Bade süzerekten
İnci dizerekten
Gel canım, gel amman...



Thread: Word order

1386.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 03:47 pm

Quoting SoLaX:

think about turkish like math. you will get it when you see the grammer rules..



I have been thinking the same



Thread: hastane

1387.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 29 Apr 2007 Sun 04:42 am

Quoting azade:

Is it better to use zorunda olmak than meli, gerek and lazım?



It depends on the conditionals. I prefer to use lazım form during a normal chat. But if there is no chance to do anything, zorunda olmak form sounds more suitable. In general, -meli form isn't used much about the specific people. As an example; "gitmeliyim" sounds only a nice conversation for translations of American films . If you are talking about a specific conditional but general, such as "one should smile while he is talking", it is much more acceptable: "İnsan konuşurken gülümsemeli". But "I should go" should be translated as "gitmem lazım", I think.

By the way, I don't think that there was strict rules to choose one of these forms.



Thread: Game- find the words in the sentence-rewrite the sentence again

1388.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 29 Apr 2007 Sun 04:33 am

seninlebirdakikaumutlandırıyorbeni



Thread: T 2 E short1

1389.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 27 Apr 2007 Fri 02:37 am

Quoting deli:

Quoting smudge1098:

ben sadece, kendime kiziyorum

Thanks

im just angry to myselfyada

im just angry with myself


emin degilim



What is the difference in English?



Thread: Very Very Quick question

1390.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 27 Apr 2007 Fri 12:39 am

Quoting Sia:

bana arkadaşim soyle "abu ket" ve "yup"

English ne?

In english:

My friend sent me a message stating "abu ket" and "yup"

Can anyone tell me what these mean? I can't find them in any of my dictionaries!



do you ask the meaning of the words or the translation of your sentence to Turkish?

If you ask the meanings: they doesn't make sense. I think "adu ket" is a sound of an old computer game: "Street Fighter". It was very famous when I was a little child. There is a character. He had a special kick. When he kicks, he makes a sound something like it, "adu ket" or "abu ket"

But maybe your friend says something different.



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