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Thread: Vowel harmony when there are no vowels!

2021.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 02:01 pm

anladım



Thread: Haydi

2022.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 02:00 pm

ettim: past form of "ben" (me/I).
edelim: wish form of "biz" (us/we)



Thread: Gereklilik Kullanımları ...necessity usage

2023.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 01:56 pm

Quoting CANLI:

well,it was just written in my book in 2 groups,so i thought there must be some difference between them

Like there is a difference between gerek,lazı,malı and zorunda,mecbur

Thats all



As I told, I am not a teacher maybe I am wrong as literature. But I think they are all same practically.



Thread: Duman - Aman Aman - Translation Please

2024.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 01:51 pm

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Thread: Gereklilik Kullanımları ...necessity usage

2025.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 01:30 pm

By the way, zorunda kalmak refers on "become", "the change of the conditionals"

Gitmek zorundaydım: I had to go
Gitmek zorunda kaldım: The conditionals changed, so I had to go/ I became in the obligatory to go



Thread: Gereklilik Kullanımları ...necessity usage

2026.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 01:25 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Ok then,here is 2 group of obligations

1.zorunda,mecburiyetinde.
And
2.zorunda kal,mecbur.

zorunda,mecburiyetinde,they are same in usage
And zorunda kal,mecbur are same in usage too,right?

What is the difference in usage between the 2 groups ?

one is forced by others,or circumstances,and the other are forced by myself,or what ???




I am not a teacher but I can say that there is not much differnce between "mecbur olmak" and "zorunda olmak" practically.

Gitmek zorundayım
Gitmeye mecburum
Gitmem gerek
Gitmem lazım
Gitmek durumundayım
Gitmek mecburiyetindeyim
Gitmeliyim

All are same, I think.
I have to go.

There is a force, always... The force may be in my mind or not. The score is still same: "I have to go", even someone force me or i force myself, or some ideas force me, or i think that i need this. There is a difference? Why do we have to make 2 or more groups on that?

This "groupization" is only in English I think. Not in Turkish. Isn't it?



Thread: Vowel harmony when there are no vowels!

2027.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 01:20 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Ohhh,i see,thx

Then we should write saat for example like this sâât,

Btw,is this TDK official site for the türk söz we can depend on it ?



I think something was misunderstood...
^ is used for long syllabes or lighter vocals than normal.
Originally,in Turkish, there is no long syllabel.

"millî" the second syllabel must be pronounced long, but all Turks know its pronounciation, so we don't use "^" always.

If it is necessary to emphesize that the syllabel is longer than normal, then I prefer to use. I saw many people who don't know the stress and pronounciation, so I think these ^s should be used.

The second usage is to make the vowel lighter.
hala and hâlâ
"aunt" and "still"

If you can understand easily that in the sentence, which one is wanted to say, you may not use:
Hala aynı işte çalışıyorum.
In this sentence, it cannot mean "aunt", because it has no suffix, so it is not object of the sentence. by the way, subject is "Ben"(I), because "çalışıyorum" refers to "me/I". For this reason, "hala" in this sentence must mean "still".

But:
Hala çalışıyor

This may mean both of them:
1) The aunt is working.
2) He is still working.

And you should make this clear if you mean the second one:
Hâlâ çalışıyor

But as I said, the meaning is generally clear, so we don't use ^s.




Thread: Vowel harmony when there are no vowels!

2028.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 02:52 am

Quoting CANLI:

You call that easily ?? lol

İ thought there is a button like Ç and Ö

â,woo hooo,it worked, thanks caliptrix


Rica ederim.
Kolay gelsin.



Thread: Vowel harmony when there are no vowels!

2029.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 01:55 am

Quoting CANLI:

â is just a light a, which used with foreign words too,because the â sound is not in the Türk alphabet

Even i don't have it in my keyboard :-S

Can any have Turkish keyboard help me here please ?

Where is the letter â in the Turkish keyboard ?



As you say, not a new letter...
You can write it easily shift+3 and then "a".



Thread: Ankara

2030.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 19 Sep 2006 Tue 01:54 am

Have you read this text about Ankara?



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