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Thread: Compound noun clauses

491.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Jul 2006 Tue 01:29 am

Yes, it is correct. Here are other examples:

deniz suyu sıcaklığı : sea water heat
otobüs bileti fiyatları : bus ticket prices
hava yolu taşımacılığı : air way transport
kapı zili sesi : door bell noise

Again if we are talking about a particular object then we make it defined by adding a genitive suffix:

deniz suyunun sıcaklığı : the heat of the sea water
otobüs biletinin fiyatı : the price of the bus ticket



Thread: Akşam yemeğı

492.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Jul 2006 Tue 12:41 am

Quoting bod:

Or is it just simply that kebab is always going to be made our of the meat from the animal rather than the living creature?



It is because "domuz eti kebabı" in unneccassarily long. We use the animal's name when we refer to its meat anyway.

In English you have two different things 'pig' and 'pork' while we don't have. So we simply say "kuzu kebabı" etc.

When I first came to the UK I pointed to the ham and asked "Is this pig meat?".





Thread: Annem

493.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Jul 2006 Tue 12:34 am

Yes, I would prefer "dinlemek" even though when it is live. "izlemek" or "seyretmek" or anything smillar implies a play/threatre I think.

"pazar günü" = "on Sunday"

pazar, pazartesi etc. are the names of the week. They are not referring to an actuall day of this week or previous.

Btw, we write them without capital letters.



Thread: Akşam yemeğı

494.       erdinc
2151 posts
 25 Jul 2006 Tue 12:23 am

There was a tiny mistake. "domuz kebabı" is better than "domuz eti kebabı". I changed my first reply.

You are right. It is possible to make it plural but not by adding a plural suffix.

" Bugün akşam yemeği için, soğanlı, biberli ve mantarlı birkaç domuz kebabı pişireceğim. "

Future tense is slightly better than present continuous although the latter is OK as well.



Thread: Annem

495.       erdinc
2151 posts
 24 Jul 2006 Mon 11:56 pm

On Sunday we watched Nizlopi in Warwick town square.

Pazar günü Warwick Kasaba Meydanı'nda Nizlopi'yi dinledik.
Pazar günü, Warwick Kasaba Meydanı'nda, Nizlopi'yi dinledik.



Thread: Akşam yemeğı

496.       erdinc
2151 posts
 24 Jul 2006 Mon 11:51 pm

Hi bod,
I used singular since it doesn't appear to be countable to me.
You can use a comma whenever you feel like seperating elements of a sentence. For instance when you want to seperate the subject from object, object from verb or a clasue from another. This usage is optional. You don't have to seperate every subject or object by adding a comma. If it is clear you don't need to but you can if you think it is unclear. I could add another comma after 'bugün'.



Thread: Any Body Willing To Translate Some Emails?

497.       erdinc
2151 posts
 24 Jul 2006 Mon 11:39 pm

If those are private e-mails you don't want to post in public, then the best thing to do is to contact a regular translator from this forum and ask for a favor. Sometimes people contact me and I direct them to others if the text is longer than a few sentences.

Of course it might work your way as well.



Thread: Lyrics-translation please..

498.       erdinc
2151 posts
 24 Jul 2006 Mon 11:26 pm

I don't know Meltem. Yes, we like criticizing American Pop Culture, Hollywood movies that are perfectly suited for 14 year olds, and the ipod generation but it's time to look at ourselves.

These lyrics are so bad it would be unjustice to compare them to 50 Cent. I think İsmail YK would win hands down in meaningless lyrics even against Vanilla Ice or Samantha Fox. Btw, I think 50 Cent's or Eminem's rhythms are not so bad. I don't listen to them and I don't like the lifestyle they are representing but I don't dislike them.

Being not sophisticated enough to understand the details is not so annoying I think. Trying to be cool while being not equipped accordingly looks childish to me and I might mind it funny sometimes. In other words, it can be entertaining when somebody tries to be cool by the terms defined by the Western popular culture. I don't hate them.

But those Turkish pop musicians are not at this stage. They are only fakes of those artists-likes. Their existence is a total misunderstanding. They are wannabees of "trying to be cool" folks.

I need some time and good music to calm down a bit.



Thread: Noun clauses

499.       erdinc
2151 posts
 24 Jul 2006 Mon 09:19 pm

I have read your question again. Actually it is different than what I explained before.

I. " noun + noun " is a noun modification (isim tamlaması
They are devided into two groups as defined and undefined. We will see this below.

II. "adjective + noun " is "sıfat tamlaması" and I don't know the English term. These don't take any suffixes.


I. noun modifications:

okul : school
bahçe : garden

1. okul bahçesi : school garden
2. okulun bahçesi : the school's garden

#1 is undefined noun modification. #2 is defined noun modification. We use defined when it is certain modifier and when it is defined both nouns take suffixes.

A noun modification is used to name an object with two nouns. It exists in English as well.

bus stop : otobüs durağı
web site : web sitesi
eye drop : göz damlası

II. "adjective + noun" phrase.
red light = kırmızı ışık
beautiful girl = güzel kız
silly boy = aptal çocuk

As you see the reason for "plastik tabak" having no suffix is the first word being an adjective.

summary:
undefined noun + noun > A + B+(s)i
defined noun + noun > A(n)in + B+(s)i
adjective + noun > A + B



Thread: Akşam yemeğı

500.       erdinc
2151 posts
 24 Jul 2006 Mon 09:14 pm

" Bugün akşam yemeği için, soğanlı, biberli ve mantarlı domuz kebabı pişiriyorum. "



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