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Thread: E-T. pleeeease.

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longinotti1
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06 Apr 2008 Sun 06:08 am

Quoting azizehannah:

"i really want to talk to you more but my turkish is very very terrible. i am ashamed of it already. and its quarter to 3 am now. but i will see you tomorrow, okey? lets sleep together for this night. haha."

anyone? pleeeeeeease.
THANKS!

My attempt. May not be perfectly stated, but i think it gets the idea across. And you are saying that your Turkish isn't good right!

"Ben seninle konuşdığım en Ã§ok ıstıyorum ama ama benim TÃ¼rkÃ§e en Ã§ok kÃ¶tÃ¼.

Bile ben onu utanmış ve bu anda Ã¼Ã§Ã¼ye ceyrek ama yarın senı gÃ¶rÃ¼şeceğim, tamam.

Bu akşam iÃ§in hadı yatalım ya."

Thread: english to turkish, please. Thank you

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longinotti1
1090 posts

06 Apr 2008 Sun 05:27 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I feel as if 'neden' would be better than 'niÃ§in'. Im not sure if I am right here, but I believe
- niÃ§in to be: what for, with what purpose.
- neden to be: what from, what is the reason behind.

Not sure though

I have seen "neden" used that way in films but I think Dilaras version works to, each has slightly different connotation. I am thinking that between two people with a relationship that "niÃ§in" works if the question points to something that speaker may have done or said. But if the speaker doesn't expect that the person "quietness" involved he/she, so for example quiet person had problem not involving the first, then neden might make more sense.

I would appreciate a native speakers opinion.

Thread: Attempt at turkish message to send out via SMS

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longinotti1
1090 posts

04 Apr 2008 Fri 04:12 am

Here are my comments, if the Turkish came from native speakers then maybe I just don't know the expression. Otherwise, I suggested a few changes. If you wrote it yourself, much of it is fine.

check request from CAB2007

hayırlı akşamlar(OK)

mesajini aldim tesekur ederim, gercek cok ve guzel cok. Sen ve senin ailesin IYISINIZ umarim. LÃ¼tfen ONLARA selam sÃ¶yle(OK)

Mansur'e Ã¼Ã§ metkup gÃ¶nderdim. Mansur'un aradiginde evdeydimden (if this came from a fluent speaker OK, otherwise you might add "sonra" her), Dun isi (işi) geÃ§ bitirdim (OK)

XXX Numaralamak yenilik .Ã§alışmak iÃ§in bir eski lÃ¼zum Olarak.Numaralamak Her İkisi den yardımcı Seni. .kullanım dogru Mansurâ€™e IÃ§in Numaralamak telefon Yeni Chem. Yapmak Ben.(I don't understand this paragraph, did a Native write it? is Numaralamak a work for cell phone? It means to put numbers on something). I would write:

[Yeni cep telefonu numaram XXX. Her ikisi numaralar sen arabilirsin. Bir eşki numaram işimde lazim. Mansur iÃ§in yeni numara onu yapabilır.]

kararlaştırılmış mesele olmuş Ã¼mitle mÃ¼z, ( I can find a definition of mÃ¼z that works with this I would say say "Ã§aremiş")

şebeke telefon değişik arasına telefon yenilik. (yenilik is lit novelty or innovation, you might put 'yeni' at the beginning)

tÃ¼r cokdirler Seni. TÃ¼rkÃ§e iÃ§ bildirmek mi porsiyon iken yardım sena icin seni tesekur ederim
(porsiyon is a helping or food or amount of something I would short to: (TÃ¼rkÃ§e Senin yardımını beni iÃ§in teşekkÃ¼r ederim)

Mutluyum iyisindir. Selamlar (OK)

Thread: t-e please

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longinotti1
1090 posts

03 Apr 2008 Thu 11:28 pm

Quoting melnceyhun:

ya burda bi tÃ¼rk kızı gÃ¶rdÃ¼ğÃ¼me Ã§ok sevindim new castle dan da olsa sen tÃ¼rkÃ§e konuşuyosun ya insan sanki yurt dışında trk gÃ¶rmÃ¼ş gibi oluo ya .....yazın mı gelirsin sadece TÃ¼rkiyeye?

My attempt. I don't think the Turkish is very well constructed. I think this is what they mean.

"Hey right here is a Turk girl that I am delighted I am seeing, from Newcastle.

If it also happens you are speaking TUrkish just like outside the school building where Turkish sort of people happen to may have been seen. You must write if only that you are coming to TUrkey."

Thread: yardım lütfen - türkçe - İngiliz

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longinotti1
1090 posts

03 Apr 2008 Thu 04:10 am

Quoting Gul Canim:

''Senin Tenin Senin Kokun ''
Yine yalnizim yine bu dÃ¶rt duvar iÃ§inde
Degismiyor Ã§ok uzaklar gece gunduz bi biÃ§imde
Seni dÃ¼sÃ¼ndÃ¼m birde bugÃ¼n gibi yine dÃ¼nde
Sen kokan giysiler bugun hala Ã¼zerimde

;;Senin tenin benim huzur yerim
Senin kokun nefes alma sebebim;;
Ne yersin ne iÃ§ersin
Sadece kalbim bunu bilsin
Sevgili bulduysan yoklugunda dayanamam buna

My attempt, obviously a love letter, this should be close if not perfectly elegant.

"Your tan your scent
again i am alone again inside these 4 walls
It doesn't change how great distances passing daily one by onei nside me
I about thought upon you at once today as like yesterday
Your scents you wear, today above all are upon me

Your tan my ease my place
breathing Your scent is my truth
What is your place (where are you) what is within you
Only my heart that must be certain
If you (already) found a lover I could not be able to stand that."

Thread: check the grammar please.

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longinotti1
1090 posts

02 Apr 2008 Wed 10:07 am

Quoting azizehannah:

Quoting longinotti1:

Quoting azizehannah:

so how will i do it?
hmm. to correct the sentence.

For your original question. I think the grammar of the Turkish you posted is fine in my opinion. The native speakers have posted no corrections.

"o gerÃ§ekten zor benim iÃ§in.. hatta dÃ¼nyadaki en zor şey.. sen hiÃ§ bilmeyeceksin nasıl zor benim iÃ§in.. en azından senin bir tek fikrin var "

"bu benim iÃ§in gerÃ§ekten zor ,dÃ¼nyadaki en zor şey. benim yerimde olmadıkÃ§a asla bilemeyeceksin ama bir kikir sahibi olasbilirsin. onu denedim fakat o korkunÃ§tu."

- is it right? i got it from a native speaker (i believe)

I like this, its a little more wordy. it will do the job.
BTW There is no "right", because "literal translation" doesn't work.

Thread: Andımız

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longinotti1
1090 posts

01 Apr 2008 Tue 10:58 am

That which came to our minds? (Pledge of allegiance)

Thread: check the grammar please.

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longinotti1
1090 posts

01 Apr 2008 Tue 10:48 am

Quoting azizehannah:

so how will i do it?
hmm. to correct the sentence.

Thread: colloquial expressions

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longinotti1
1090 posts

01 Apr 2008 Tue 10:40 am

Quoting Tazx1:

Thanks.

So, 'kırasına' is a misprint > it should be 'kirasina'?

Because 'kırmak' = To break? ... I wondered if 'kırısına'
meant > something to do with breaking?
And 'Ã¶lÃ¼rÃ¼p Ã¶lmecesine' > means 'dying and almost dead'?

But what would 'Ã¶lmecesine' exactly mean? Is it, 'Ã¶lme-ce-si-(n)-e', or is it, 'Ã¶l-me-ce-sin-e', or is it
'Ã¶lme-cesine'?

For example '-mesine rağmen' means > despite [something]!

Your translation makes good sense. I too was able to guess the general meaning intuitively but, I want to know the exact grammatical construct.

For instance, what would 'gelmecesine' mean?

***kıyasıya>means> Savagely ... this does not appear in your translation [where is dog-eat-dog?]

The general drift is very obvious, it is the syntax I am after!!

Thanks, if you could explain please?

Ok I made some oversıghts. Your example was *kır*grey,hoary, not *kir*dirt,fılth or *kira*rent

but plug ın any of them the ımage does not change much/

`kıyasıya` my online said dog-eat-dog which is an English idiom for savagely/

A Turk grammar book helps you understand what all the extra suffixes and vowels, but it isn't the whole answer. Turkish doesn't follow totally strict "syntax". (especially in your example where a lot of content is "implied".

Thread: check the grammar please.

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longinotti1
1090 posts

01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:46 am

Quoting azizehannah:

really? `cause supposed to be, its "its really hard to be me, its the hardest thing in the world. you will never know how hard it is unless you are me, but atleast you have a single idea."

arghhh. so its different.
may you please kindly revise the sentence.

How are they that different, they seem the same, except I agree with your version. "but at you have a single idea".

With the other if you add the word "the".

"but at least you have (the) only idea." THen it works.

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