Thank you so much Sui. Ahhh, that is so beautiful, I love him too.
Thanks

Please could someone translate these part lyrics for me?

"Gel artik vakit gecti canima yetti ozledim cok
Gel gel sarisinim gel, ben sana asigim gel, gel, gel gun isigim, gel gel cok karisigim gel"

Thank you!

I am feeling very in love today ....

Apologies from the English for all their very funny and ridiculous comments! The English get this as well though.

When I was working at a conference in Texas a man said to me "are you English?" Yes, I said. "ahh I have a cousin in London, John Reed - do you know him?"

Hmmmmmmmmm big place London.... :-S

A strange question . Really, we fall in love without choice (whether the person is worth falling in love with or not)
Maybe if you are lucky you will fall in love with someone who is worth your love

I don't believe men realise that women are discriminated against on a regular basis and if, perhaps, they truly examined their thoughts about all aspects of women they would agree. We don't want to be EQUAL to men - I like the fact we are different, but I want to be treated with the same respect as a man. That is all.

I once worked in a sales office and (amazingly) was in a management role there. The Sales Director (a man) would always tell me how forward-thinking he was for employing me and that he was NOT a sexist. Then, one day, we had to replace one of the sales administration team. We were discussing this and he said to me:-
"I think we should try to employ a man in this role this time".
"Why" I asked
"Because the administration role is good training for sales managment, and if a man were in that role he could eventually be a sales manager"
SAY NO MORE..........!!
:-S

Ooo Joey, maybe we should keep quiet about that one! You are not helping our cause...!!!

For Ramayan:

What's black and blue and lying in a ditch?
A man who told too many blonde jokes.

Ahh then I am at home with my feline friends. Men must beware - we may be beautiful, cute and soft - but we have SHARP CLAWS AND BITE!

No it is my claws!!!

Hehehehehe Aslan, I like your style baby! You are so funny

Well, as you are all upping the stakes, can I have Oliver Martinez? I am sure I could entice him away from Kylie..

You are a greedy girl Hmmm.

Payback time...

What do you call a woman who knows where her husband is every night?
A widow.

What did God say after creating man?
I must be able to do better than that.

Q. What's the fastest way to a man's heart?
A. Through his chest with a sharp knife.

HeHe - but we love them anyway!

Yeah, actually Lyndie, I have finished with him because Brad Pitt kept giving me wonderful smiles - just for me...

Well actually, he didn't return my love. But I could see from the TV that he always gave me that "special look"...
Then at 10 I moved onto a "real man" - Tom Cruise ..and I am pretty certain HE loves me.

I would say something very profound like...

"Why are you all sat there watching TV when you could be at the pub..."
(That's 15 words though - ah well)

I once fell in love with one of the Thunderbirds (Scott) - does this count? Of course, I was 5 at the time

Why are blonde jokes so short?
So Ramayan can remember them.

HeHe Lyndie - us blondes must stick together!

"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go".

"Work is the curse of the drinking classes".

and my favourite...
"Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much".

Oscar Wilde

HeHe

I love MUSE Sui, and also love "Falling Away with You" and this...

Dark Shines

passing by you light up my darkest skies
you'll take only seconds to draw me in
so be mine and your innocence i will consume

dark shines
bringing me down
making my heart feel sore
because it's good

hold your hands up to your eyes again
hide from the scary scenes, suppress your fears
so be mine and your innocence i will consume

dark shines
bringing me down
making my heart feel sore
because it's good
you're dark shines
bringing me down
making my heart feel sore
because it's good

That is so beautiful and so sad, who is the author Sui?

You are very jolly today Cyrano! Hehe

I wish there was no cruelty - to people and to animals. I could cope with anything if there was no cruelty. I also wish I didn't have to work, but that is another matter....

Hehe - well done Cyrano!
Smoking is bad for me, and expensive, and not nice for other people I know, but one thing is sure - I WILL DIE, as will all of us, for some reason or another! If not cigarettes, then maybe in my car. Should I stop driving my car? It is certainly as bad for your health, and worse for the planet.

Hehe - but I am a girl!!!! This will not affect me (only my boyfriend I think). Really - do I look like a boy?!!

Hehe Rayaman, you are very naughty "murmering women"!!! Your post has driven me to light up another cigarette - and at £5 per packet in the UK, you have made my life expensive also!!

Yes - I am always cautious about MSN. Microsoft are so hated that they are a big target for viruses. I am so ignorant though - it says you need GMAIL and have to have a US number to set one up?

Is it an MSN type service Cyrano?

Aghhhh Sui, I will never be good enough to translate! I try to translate the posts and then compare mine to your replies and I am usually wrong! I must keep practicing eh!

However you merit Orhan Pamuk's work (or his choice of subject matter), I would be interested to know the Turkish view on his current situation. Is he generally seen as:-

(a) A literary freedom fighter, so committed to freedom of speech that he will risk prison for his cause?
or
(b) A very clever business man who has taken a calculated risk that the controversy surrounding his current book will give him worldwide publicity and increase sales by many thousands, while safely avoiding prison because of the sensitive EU situation? After all, how many "pulp fiction" readers would have heard of Salmon Rushtie before the controversy over "Death of a Princess"?

I don't know? But I'm interested in your views!

Don't worry Cyrano - I am teasing you and making you worried! I am going out now so I will leave you in peace!

I am not sure why you are apologising, but I am sorry to confuse you - I am only joking with you! I feel bad now! (So bad that I feel drawn to use a smiley..... Ugh!)

...In fact Cyrano the more I think about that nose of yours the more I think I MUST be your Roxanne!!! After all, I am a free lady now!! Check out my profile and you will see!

Well said Cyrano. I was right - you are a better person than me!

GuiGeneris, thank you so much! I feel really cruel saying this but I don't want him to think that I am playing some game with him.

English to Turkish, if someone would be so kind...

"I don't think you understand me. I have told you that we are finished. Why do you continue to send me messages saying you love me? Believe me, I am not going to change my mind".

Yes, I have it all. Good sense of humour, tall, blonde and beautiful and....a RAT of a turkish ex-boyfriend. Lucky me!

Fantastic. At last we get a chance to help our turkish classmates! I don't have a dictionary but I will go and buy one tomorrow and do my best.

I noticed this survey (carried out in the UK) and had to laugh:-

If a good looking woman walks through your town asking every man she meets if he will have sex with her, 83% will say ‘yes’. If a good looking man walks through your town asking every woman he meets if she will have sex with him, 94% will say no and 27% will call the police!

Thank you both of you. Both messages look very different!!
Thank you so much x

"I am sorry I upset you today by not answering your calls. I need some time to think about things but will send you a message again soon."

Cyrano - perhaps we can do a deal?!

Cyrano, sorry to confuse you - I have given you an explanation above (I amended my original post a moment ago)

There isn't really a phrase using "be it so". We do have "so be it" was that the phrase? "So be it" would be used in a similar way to the French "c'est la vie", and would normally be used as an acceptance of what can't be changed, so...."it is raining on my wedding day...so be it"!!!!!

Well not me! Handsome men are usually vain or gay!

I can tell you lots about Western men, well...English men! We have two extremes:

First the JEDI:
Most are very romantic, loving, and do not consider themselves above doing cooking, housework etc! My two great loves were both wonderful and did EVERYTHING round the house, cleaning, cooking, shopping for food..HONESTLY!
It is generally accepted that things are 50/50 and chores, bills etc. are split equally. I am not sure about going out and getting drunk etc. I think the girl who wrote that in another post must be very immature and/or young, but certainly they are not overly jealous and none of my boyfriends would DARE criticise my clothes for being too sexy or try to stop me having nights out with my girlfriends!
now....
THE DARK SIDE.... men who believe they are master of the house, master of you and master of money! Avoid them - you can usually spot them easily. They have shaved heads, wear English Flag shorts and get drunk all the time. Avoid these men at all costs...."beyond this point there be dragons.."

Maybe I should Miss Ceyda, but AFTER the one where we tell him to use punctuation....!

Teşekkürler Mltm - I'm sorry that was so long! I now have to chop it up in to "bite sized" pieces and send it by several text messages! Oh I wish he had email.

Thank you Miss Cedya. Could someone translate my reply from English to Turkish..

"I had guessed that things were not good for you because since you returned to Istanbul your need for me has increased and you have suddenly talked of marriage even though it is far too soon and we do not know each other well enough. You should know that I cannot be the solution to your problems and it is not a good reason to marry me. However, you must know that I do care about you and if you tell me your problems, maybe I can help you?"

Merhaba. Don't judge me - it's only a translation!

"...askim gercekten iyi degilim hayatimin en kotu kisi geciriyorum ama ben bunlari. Sana beli etmiyorum cunku ozulmeni istemiyorum ben istermki seninle her saat her bir dakika seninle konusim bu nasil gececek onu cok dusu.."

Thank you!

Well, I am still friends with him, but he knows I am watching his every step! You can't really be sure if they mean what they say, but as long as you make no commitments until you do, then there is no harm done! My friend has got a winter job now and has never actually asked me for anything, so I am, for the moment, giving him the benefit of the doubt!

Good Girl Linda - like your message!

Have a look at "my Turkish boyfriend" thread in the Forum. I posted a new thread called "Suffocated" and got some VERY honest answers...!

He He. You do indeed have a very large nose, and a wonderful way with words Cyrano. I love the profile...Surname: de Bergerac!! Fantastic.

Teşekkürler Freshman - wow - that was fast!

Merhaba - could you translate the following message for me (may as well find out what he's saying now....!)

"Askim gercekten sana asigim sana ve sana tapiyorum sen siz delioluyorum"

I had decided not to come back to this website again(!) but have just read all your posts and think you are all wonderful!!! Have to go now, but will be back!

I think all my first instincts are confirmed by you all. Instincts like those are easily hidden by romantic words, but my head must rule my heart. I think I will end this before it becomes a problem.

Every day on this site I read messages from girls (never boys you notice!) and all the messages are the same. They are all invited out to visit...there is a proposal..and so on. I want to scream at them "you fools"!! But I am so stupid I didn't notice that I am exactly the same!

It makes me so sad though. Not so sad for the loss of this man, or of love (love is everywhere!) as for my sadness of losing my faith in people's integrity. I loved Turkey so much I can shut my eyes and smell it's rich scent and hear it's melody but right now this man represents Turkey and it has deceived me. I am not a fool, and yet we English appear to be thought of as such because we believe people are being honest. It is very sad.

Thank you again mtlm. I don't wish to get married, TO ANYONE, for years! I am not looking for a husband, so he won't persuade me otherwise! You have helped me very much with your comments though - I don't want to hurt him, but I don't feel the same way as he "says" he feels about me. I hope this will end without problems...

HeHeHe - you have cheered me up today! Will send this to all my friends!!

Thank you mltm (and for your past translations!). Believe me, I am NOT a fool. All through this relationship I have questioned everything to myself and been VERY cautious with him. I do not even know yet if I will go to see him in February. My concern is for the past week or so - this sudden wish to marry me does seem to coincide with his sudden lack of money! Also, I am not a very young girl (I am not OLD, but you know what I mean) and we stayed in a very good hotel, so he knows I have a good career and money. I think it is a shame, because despite all, I was very attracted to him and we had fun together.

Yes, sorry Catwoman I read your message again and understand. He has not hurt my feelings, but you are right, he doesn't really listen to me. Hmmmm I really don't know!!!

Slavica, you have put into words what I feel also! I love this website and, even if my relationship with my boyfriend does not last, my relationship with this website will!

I am not normally one for pooring out my problems, but I have read advice you have all given before and it is always GOOD ADVICE!

I met my boyfriend towards the end of my holiday in Turkey and he was not like the the other guys who had approached me. He was slightly older than them and was not so forward but always coming over to see me, complementing on my smile, etc. and winning me over very slowly and very romantically until I agreed to be his girlfriend.

When I returned from my holiday he rang every hour, sent sms messages all day and became angry if I did not answer the phone or return some of his messages. I feel, also, that he 'pushed' me into saying that I loved him - asking me again and again until I said it. For most of the time I do feel that I love him - we laugh together and we tell eachother all about our lives and I think he is wonderful. The trouble is that things are moving so fast and the more he pushes me the more I take a step back! I sent a message to him the other day (I had it translated on this website!) saying that I did not want him to plan any future for us yet and that when I go back to see him in Turkay in February it is to spend time together, enjoy eachother, have fun.

He seems to have completely ignored this message and, when I spoke to him just a while ago, he told me that he has told his mother about us and we have her blessing, that we will get married as soon as I say I am ready, that we can live in Istabul, Antalaya, Bodrum or UK - it is up to me, oh...and that we will have two children - a boy and a girl!!!!!!

This is TOO MUCH for me. I am not a hard person - in fact I am often accused of being over-romantic, but this is just too much! He has occasionally mentioned lately that he has no money at the moment and cannot find a winter job....am I right to be a bit suspicious about that?!!! By marrying me quick his problems would be solved, eh!

I am not sure if to carry on with this relationship. If he is sincere and being honest with me, then it is too much for me, but I will lose him and I DO feel so much for him!

Wise friends - what shall I do?????

Teşekkürler Cyrano - you come to my rescue again.

Sorry I mean to say "lutfen"!!

Merhaba, could you translate this short message?

"I hope you are feeling less stressed today canim. I wish I were with you to make you happy and to make you smile again! Things cannot be SO bad for you - you have ME as your girlfriend - who could ask for more?!"

My heart was beating very fast as I posted that! I completely missed the hope you're feeling better bit though. But I'm glad I had a go!

Teşekkürler SuiGeneris - dare I send it though!

Ooo I'm really in a bad mood today - time to get serious..!

"Honey you know how I feel about you, but it is too early to start planning any future together. We have only known eachother for such a short time do not know eachother really. When I come to Turkey it is to see you, have fun and get to know you. Please, do not make any plans based on me until you know me better."

All sounding a bit like Gwyneth Paltrow's Oscar Speech....!

Aghhhhhhhhh - what's with all those smileys!

Yes do! He should be trying to make your lives easier, not more difficult!! If you write him a message I will send it on!!

No - his English is as bad as my turkish so his friends help him translate! Somehow we can understand eachother the rest of the time!

He is getting too lazy - will reply to him in English tonight!

Thanks Miss Ceyda - guess he wasn't too upset by my message earlier he he!

Merhaba - please could you translate two sms messages:-

(1) Seevgilim bu sozlerin beni cok mutlu ediyor askin iyiki seninle tanismisim askim inaniyoruk seninle mutlu bir hayat sorecegiz askim.

(2) Askim sni nekadar cok sevdigimi sana cumleyle sana hic bir zaman anlatamam seni okadar cok seviyorum askim seninle sonsusa kadar yasamak istiyorum

Many thanks!

"Come to think of it, is it so bad the way they do things in Turkey. Who knows how long love will last whether it is 'true' love in the European sense, or 'passing' love in the turkish boy sense. You can marry someone from your own culture, believe they love you and within a few years they treat you like dirt, run around with every other girl they see, drink too much and beat you!"

Lyndie this is SO true! I believe that these men can feel 'passing love' and really mean it. Is that not one of the best times in love? That excitement of being attracted to someone, getting to know them better, when everything is new. It is a joy and should be enjoyed. Young girls should also enjoy this too and not be so quick to whine and complain and suffocate their boyfriends - perhaps then they would find the boyfriends stay around longer anyway!

He He He Lyndie - you love your smilies so much you don't even know when you put them in!

He He He Lyndie - you love your smilies so much you don't even know when you put them in!

Ha ha ha! I think this post has gone far enough - we will be in trouble for using as a chat room! I have no messages for you to translate today. I have sent my boyfriend two - that is enough for any man (as am I!!!!!).

Cyrano! Shame you have a Roxanne! The message maker wins the girl's heart in the end. Do you also have a big nose?

I am not a gentleman!!! I am all woman!

Cyrano! I have been waiting for you all day!!! Is it only coincidence that your name is Cyrano or are you Cyrano de Bergerac - the supplier of beautiful messages for loved ones? (no - I do not like cutsey smilies!)

Thank you mltm x

Lyndie's post answer's my question. I don't believe that there is any harm in saying it more often, or sooner! I agree, it is lovely to enjoy the moment. I do worry, though, that young girls truly believe they are in love with them.

Merhaba - I have a nice one this time!!! Could you help?

"My love, I feel like I am just killing time until I see you again - it seems so long to go. I carry on with my life as usual but in my head I'm just waiting, waiting for you. I miss you so much".

Ooo thank you so much both of you!

Thanks so much buss. Do you mean it's not complete?

Of course I mean that. You only need to play tricks at the start of a relationship. You must have known eachother a while?

Merhaba. Could you do another one?

"It was so good to talk to you this morning. I love to hear your voice, and your laugh - it makes me so happy. Please kiss your mother from me. She must be a very very special lady to have the burden of you for 27 years....!!"

Ahhh he must be really in love with you. There is no need for you to play tricks then Miss Ceyda!

You should! The worse I treat this man, the more passionate he becomes!! Its all psychology!

Shame - I have to go now. I will sleep on it and decide if to post it tomorrow. Take the night off Cyrano - you are free of work from me!

Cyrano you are so funny. I thought I had posted an empty post or something, but I see now that you have seen my log on and expect me to ask for your help!! Am i a pest?

Ha Ha - do I take advantage of your kindness with ALL my messages! Actually, now you mention it, I do have one but I'm scared to post it in case it is too sexy again!!!!

Oh dear - what have I done now?!

Hey, thanks, didn't know that. Does it work with any mobile company?

No, I don't mean they are all bad, but in England it may be years before they will admit they love you!! In Turkey they tell you very soon after you meet them. Is it because "seni seviyorum" means something more like passion rather than "in love"?

How can you really tell if a Turkish guy is serious about you? I am no fool, and I know they sometimes try to get girls from other countries to marry them, or to move to their country but are they ALL like that? They certainly seem to "fall in love" very quickly! One minute you are chatting to him, thinking you quite fancy them and the next, they are proposing! Are they all as bad as people say, or is it just their culture?

Cyrano - what would I do without you! Thank you.

Thanks Duskahvesi - my boyfriend went crazy ha ha ha. Boys need to be teased to keep them in their place!!

Merhaba friends! Please could you do another one for me! You are so kind.

"Will I let you kiss me ever? Maybe...who can tell! Honey, I am desparate to see you as well and will come to Turkey as soon as I can, but remember, you can only hold my hand...!!"

Hey thanks Duskahvesi - you not SO bad after all!

What d'you mean?

You are a bad boyfriend! You're sexy messages will get me in trouble with translation website. I will be too frightened to translate your messages now! For your punishment I will NOT let you kiss me when I come to Turkey - but you MAY hold my hand if you want!

Thank you Cyrano - you always such a help to me. This is the best place to be today I think - it's VERY cold in UK today - is it good in Turkey?

Just one more, if you can!

"Honey, we only just avoided an argument last night! I did not know that your credit on your phone had run out and thought I had upset you. It is so difficult to communicate like this. But all is OK - it is a beautiful day again and I love you so much!"

Cyrano your English is REALLY good. The English are SO lazy with learning languages - it is very arrogant of us! The only time we seem to be interested in learning languages is when we meet men who can't speak English - we are disgraceful!

Nice one - I have stolen your message too!

Apologies - need ONE MORE translation!

"My love, thank you for your beautiful message. You are always, forever, the only one in my life (I would NOT want two of you - hehe)! Seriously, meeting you has been the most wonderful thing that has happened to me, and now I am so impatient to see you again.

Suigeneris thank you for your speedy reply! You are so clever - it would take me hours to do that and I would still get it wrong. Marriage? Hmmm. Think I need to ignore that comments!

Please could you help with part of my sms message:.

..seni cok ozluyorum (I miss you?) ve sana delioluyorum askim seninle forever sadece bana ayit olmani istiyorum askim sadece Chris&Mehmet ve seninle evlenmek istiyorum...

Thank you Cyrano - you are so kind. I hope you have forgiven me for my double posting!

Sorry - I only know words of love and this man does not deserve too much at the moment!

Could you translate English to Turkish PLEASE!

"Well done - you have managed to go a whole day without being angry with me! If you are a good boyfriend for a week, and don't get angry, I may even kiss you when I come to Turkey. I can't promise that though!"

Hi Miss Ceyda!
You're welcome - I steal posts from here all the time and my boyfriend thinks I am very clever!!! Ha ha ha

Wow - that was quick. Thank you so much Nightingale!

Today was such a beautiful day - sunshine and very cold and icy. All I wanted to do was to go for a long walk with you holding your hand, and then return home and get warm again in your arms. I miss you so much.

Thank you mltm - you are brilliant. It will really make him laugh!

Please could you translate the following - I would love to continue a joke that I have with my boyfriend - he would love it if i sent the sms in turkish. Thank you so much!

"Askim, I will not frighten you with text messages tonight! Why do we always argue? I know it is mostly my fault, but if a woman has no anger, she has no passion, so really you are extremely lucky to have me!! Goodnight askim - I will dream of you even though you are a monster!"

Cyrano I kiss you! Thank you so much for your speedy reply. I love this website! It has inspired me to learn Turkish and when I am good enough I hope to translate for others. Thanks again!

Thank you both of you. That's wonderful - because I love him like crazy too!

Another one! I am so grateful to you all for helping me - could you help me with one from English to Turkish?

Askim talking to you today has made me so happy. To hear your voice again, to laugh with you, to hear you tell me you love me was so beautiful and means so much more than when we send sms. You have made my birthday so happy. Tonight I just want to be in your arms and kiss you and share my love with you.

Wow, thank you so much! That was quick!

Thank you so much erdinc - you are so clever! I hope my turkish will soon be good enough to do this for myself. Thank you so much for your time and trouble.

I cannot translate this parts of these messages:-

(1)
...yanida olmani cok isterdim eger yanida olsaydim sabaha kadar seni operdim.

(2)
...sana asigim seni deliler gibi seviyorum canim askim.

I would be so grateful if you can help.
x

Please could you send to me to please!!!!!!

Please could you translate this from English to Turkish? Many thanks in advance.

Askim - the reason I sometimes get angry with you is because when I go on the internet I find that there are thousands of girls who get the same sms messages from boys like you who work in resorts and return to Istanbul in winter and all their sms messages are the same too! I tell you at the start that I am no fool, but here I am - still loving you. How can I know that you are different from all these other turkish men?