If you don´t know anything about Ataturk, so how can we apply your perspective? Hide your deformed ideas in yourself about the people who you know NOTHING about!

Ne demek. Her zaman

And if someone tells about his/her idea and if you want to express that you agree with his/her or you think like his/her; you can say:

Bence de; which means "me, too", "I think so, too"

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Ceketini unuttu. Except one character, your translation and syntax are correct

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Wow, tomac, really good translation! You´re really a good learner!

Arabic and Turkish are completely different languages. Because:

1) Arabic words in Turkish were already adapted into Turkish pronunciation rules. And Turkish pronunciation is very different than Arabic.

2) Turkish grammer is much more different than Arabic grammer, they don´t have any similarity.

3) And a lot of most-used Arabic loanwords had gained different meanings. And some of them are close to the originals. For example:

şey (thing) > eşya (plu) : furniture

haber (news) > ihbar (plu): informing, announcing

malik (owner, used for residents) > emlak (plu) : resident seller/renter

hak (right) > hukuk (plu): law

taraf (side) > etraf (plu) : environment

So, An Arabic can´t understand Turkish as a Turkish can´t understand Arabic.

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Oh, sorry! didn´t see Gülümseme´s translation. So, its my try:

Önemli olan okuyanın bakış açısı değil, önemli olan yazan kişinin bakış açısı bence. Her okuyucu farklı şekilde yorumlayabilir ama yazan sadece bir anlamda yazar.

Translation:

Reader´s view is not important, writer´s view is important in my opinion. Each reader can comment in different ways and writer writes only in one view.

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I´ve googled it for you:

Elveda aşkım, elveda sana
Ben zaten sade ve sadece
Geçiyordum hayatından

Gidiyorum hayatından
Gözün aydın gidiyorum
Belki de bu bir hata
Şimdilik bilmiyorum
Sen de biraz yalnız kal
Ölç, tart, iyi düşün
Sakın beni merak etme
Bakarım ben başımın çaresine
Ara sıra uğrarım
Evi derler toplarım
Gölge misali sonra süzülürüm
Kayıplara karışırım

Elveda aşkım, elveda sana
Ben zaten sade ve sadece
Geçiyordum buralardan

Elveda aşkım, elveda sana
Ben zaten sade ve sadece
Geçiyordum hayatından

Gidiyorum hayatından
Gözün aydın gidiyorum
Belki de bu bir hata
Şimdilik bilmiyorum
Sen de biraz yalnız kal
Ölç, tart, iyi düşün
Sakın beni merak etme
Bakarım ben başımın çaresine
Ara sıra uğrarım
Evi derler toplarım
Gölge misali sonra süzülürüm
Kayıplara karışırım

Elveda aşkım, elveda sana
Ben zaten sade ve sadece
Geçiyordum buralardan

Elveda aşkım, elveda sana
Ben zaten sade ve sadece
Geçiyordum hayatından

Elveda aşkım, elveda sana
Ben zaten sade ve sadece
Geçiyordum buralardan

Ben zaten sade ve sadece
Geçiyordum hayatından

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I haven´t been posting song translation to the forum and breaking this with a nice song from Deniz Seki:

Kayboldum - I got lost.

Kayboldum koca bir orman içinde,
Yemyeşil fakat sapsarı biçimde,
Korkudan etrafa hep küser oldum,
Rengarenktim, niye ben bir anda soldum?

Yılları önüme kattım, yola koyuldum.
Takvimdeki yapraklar benim umudum.
Hep sevdim, sevdim, sevdim, sayıp unuttum.
Sıkıldım hayattan, çok yoruldum.

I got lost in a huge forest,
Pure green but looking pure yellow,
I sulked because of fear,
I was colorful, why did I suddenly fade?

I took the years in front of me and took my way,
Papers of calender are my hope,
I always loved, loved, loved, I counted and forgot,
I´m bored of life, I´m very tired.

And here is the link to listen:

http://albumdinle.com/deniz-seki-2008-sahici-albumunu-dinle/

Note: When you open the page, you´re going to encounter with a table requiring the other songs of album. You are going to see "08.Deniz Seki - Kayboldum" section and click on it.

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Okay, I trust you Anyway, thanks for that useful information.

Avalon´s explanation is better.

But it is;

in tureng.com

Btw, it is a kind of saying to express boredom for something or someone.

No. Let me explain you word by word:

o zaman: then, so 

seneye: next year

tanışırım: I meet (forgive me, I haven´t expressed the tense of conjugation. It is for simple present tense)

artık: from this moment. (but, in this sentence, "artık" is used to emphasize the meaning of any time at future)

The meaning of sentence is;

So, I meet him next year.

Literally (with combination of simple present tense + future tense emphasizin word "artık"):

So, I will (or I may) meet him next year.

I hope I could explain. Ask if there is any point that you did not get.

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tanışma is acquaintance. "Tanışmayı" is accusative case of "tanışma".

Tanışırım is conjugated case of "tanışmak" verb for 1st-singular pronoun.

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Personally, I´ve always listened English native-speakers and never objected them. I´ve been corrected for several times by some English-natives on here and I´m always thankful to them. We´re here for reciprocal help in the end

I´m a Turkish native and never heard people using "götürmek" for destroy.

Well - let me make a little statement.

When you want to say "flood took the village away."

Sel suları kasabayı götürdü. Yes, it looks like "flood destroyed the village" but it has "causing something to replace." meaning.

Beni götüremezsin > you can´t destroy me. No, it sounds very rasping and does not fit it.

Trust natives, mate. Sometimes native-speaker are more assuring resources than dictionaries

It doesn´t fit that sentence. And I have never heard götürmek is also used for "destroy".

Your explanation may be correct. My explanation was just what I heard, I didn´t research the actual. But it sounded familiar to me to combine a number that has a special meaning in Arabic with an Arabic saying.

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Maşallah is a Arabic-rooted saying and number 41 refers to plurality in Arabic, this is what I know.

To emphasize the meaning and add some exaggeration, say "41 kere maşallah!"

Vowel-with-hat is not being used any more, as I know ?

Senin de şu küçüklük arkadaşlarına başlayacağım ama hee, Ece´nin söylediğine katılıyorum. İsim ver, isim.

I´m bored of your childhood friends. I agree with what Ece has said, give me name.

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My try:

Mehmet hangisi? (if you´re asking which one is Mehmet among a group of people) Uzun olan mı?

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And sometimes, when you ask if how many kids a man/woman does have and then receive the answer, you can say:

"Allah bağışlasın."

An additional info

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My try:

Don´t waste your effort, you can´t take me (there).

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I woke up at 5.50 this morning > Bu sabah 5.50´de uyandım.

But, we commonly say "bu sabah altıya on kala uyandım." (I woke up when it was 10 minutes to 6 o´clock this morning)

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Great answer armegon! I recommend this fake democracy lovers who blame on NO-voters as "coup-supporter, anti-democtratic" to come, see and learn the democracy and freedom in Trakya! These fake democracy lovers who blame on others just because of their political views have a lot to learn from people of Trakya!

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Good for me that I made you laugh only going before bed, you´re making me laugh every time!

Who said you that I think as "Anatolian people are ignorant"? Stop talking nonsense, from very start I said I respected everybody´s ideas and I´m not interested in who voted yes or no like you!

I never called "ignorant" or anything else the people who voted YES, I have just criticised the method! Read the texts carefully before blaming on people, okay? We´re Anatolian people, too, and I´m proud of it, we haven´t been send from space, so watch your words! Enough is enough!

No more keyboard efforts for you, I told what I had to, and leaving you alone with your ideas!

Hahaha, you are really funny!

Anti-Erdoğan voters are %46 and voters for Erdoğan are %46, too! Is this your way of voting for ammendments? Or are they ammendments of Erdoğan? Contradiction loves you, man

Di

Ending the discussion on my own side. No more replies. I´m leaving everybody with his/her own ideas.

with respects,

t.c.

So, it is a problem when a Turk criticizes Americans but it is ok when a Canadian or a non-Turk does it, isn´t it?

You´re the last people to talk about equality, then! Besides, this thread is not suitable for having mutual jokes about your "distorted views" !

I can´t get your point of blaming Turks for this? It was not a TURKISH member who said that Americans were unable to find the Türkiye on map, it was "stumpy" who said it! But thanks to her for she has censored all her messages after creating all these complication! I strongly recommend you to revise what you learnt from this thread!

My try:

Saçları uzatmaya devam:

Keep growing the hairs.

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Perhaps, you may stop blaming on your own army and own State at first step, after this moment!

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Then, don´t say it. Nobody here insulted the Americans, or address who has insulted them. And it is not acceptable of you to generalize all Turks saying that your sentence "Turks are so..."

What is this? You´ve been criticizing Turkish politics in here 24/7 and then expelling the oppositions and now what happened if I have criticized the American politics; by keeping American politics and American citizens apart, furthermore?!

Oh, it is not very hard to know it! I already know that US is not interested in Türkiye because of loving us! We´re close to all strategic points; Balcanians, Middle East, Caucasians, Europe, Africa, Asia, Cyprus, Iran, Iraq...Shall I count more?

Huh, a test for geography knowledge? But if it will make you happy:

Greece, Bulgaria, Armenia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Georgia...

Hope it works for you, and answers the question in your mind !

But this does not change the fact of that EU and US have a special page for Türkiye on their foreign policy!

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How come the citizens of a country that´s foreign policies mingling with Türkiye, do not know about where Türkiye is?

Either this is your exaggeration or American society is much more ignorant then we think!

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Let´s correct the sentence placing Turkish characters:

Binlerce kilometre uzaktan, bütün samimiyetliyle, bütün duruluğuyla, dostun sesinden gelen, canın sesinden gelen türküyü, bütün suskunluğunla dinlemektir ÖZLEMEK!

Tomac, I will try to answer your question:

bütün samimiyetiyle, bütün duruluğuyla dostun sesinden gelen, canın sesinden gelen türkü.

Comma causes confussion in here. Because when you put comma between "bütün duruluğuyla" and "dostun sesinden gelen", then you mean "bütün duruluğuyla sentence doesn´t qualify the following sentence, it qualifies any other sentence but the next one"

But I see that it doesn´t meet with "dinlemektir" sentence. As "Bütün duruluğuyla" qualifes "türkü" noun, we don´t put comma between them.

I hope I could help. If still having confusions, just ask without any hesisations.

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Party elections and constitutional changes are DIFFERENT things. When %51 of majority votes a ruling-party, %49 of minority has chance to be represented by alternative oppositional parties or coalitions. But in constitutional changes, that minority of %49 does NOT have a chance to be represented by alternative articles. This is what I´m trying to say.

And by the way, what about the people that declare "no-voters" as "coup-supporter, anti-democratic" ? Everybody is same, no difference, so no need to label opposite ideas!

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YES = %57,94

NO = %42,06

These rates mean half of the community approves the package and the other half doesn´t. Constitutional changes are required social consensus, because no matter if approve or not, all of the citizens are going to be governed by SAME package. Can you see any consensus here? So how can we talk about the victory of democracy?

The same thing would be valid if YES was %42 and NO was %57. Ruling-parties must find a common way, they can´t serve a package and pull themselves back, saying "this is this, like or not". Unfortunately, both ruling-party and the opposition parties turned it into election and it looked like a vote of confidence for AKP.

Türkiye is a heterogeneous community; secularists, conservatives and other kind of views live together and they have to deal with all of them. It doesn´t mean that this package is democtratic since it is prepared by a conversative ruling-party and voted by a relatively conversative community.

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It means:

"You suddenly went silent, dear!"

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Some weeks ago I was in Edirne to visit my friend. Because of that city is just nearby the Greek border, almost all of Greek channels could be tunned. I saw Binbir Gece with subtitles and in Turkish on a Greek channel, and furthermore, it was in prime-time hour!!

It was very good to see a Turkish movie serie on a Greek channel, with its original language!

Turks took off and are flying !!!

We´re going to play with Slovenia in Istanbul on 8th of September, at 21:00

There´s not much difference between literal and grammatical meaning of this sentence.

Grammatically it means:

I may sacrifice myself to you.

Literally it means

I love very much. (idiomatically, I love you so much that I can sacrifice myself to you.)

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They´ve played wonderful! It was a great match! We did 3 at 3! Our hearts are with players and Türkiye!

Is it really because of that? I mean, present means both "today" and "gift" because of this?

I didn´t correct your translation, Adam. I´m just concerned with my own translation.

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Stop laughing at my keyboard mistakes!  

thanks. sometimes i´m confussing it.

My try, hope it works. thanks.

It´s an expression of love and care. It doesn´t have a definite equivalent in English, unfortunately. It means something like "I care of you so much, I may be very upset if anything bad happens to you."

I hope my explanation satisfies you. thanks.

Rüyalarını gerçekleştirmenin en iyi yolu, UYANMAKTIR!

Küçüğe saygı göstermezsen büyük olamazsın.

my try,

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İyi ki doğdun *name* !!

The fact is that, these kind of touristic destinations lose their spirit when season gets ended. Those touristic destinations are generally located nearby small towns and so when seaons is opened tourists start to come there, it seems those places are very active. But when season is closed and tourists leave the destinations, in fall and winter, these places fall into a deep silence, only native people remain around there.

So, at first glance, these small touristic destinations look like a good alternative to live and spend years in summers but when nature fell asleep, you see that the fact is actually not that one.

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absolutely she didn´t !

Fethiye is best one among them, Urla is not that beautiful, as Fethiye exists in the list. Ayvalık and Bozcaada remain in northern Turkey and season is not that long around there and they are commonly preferred by people who live in and around Istanbul, as summerhouse. I don´t know about Foça and Dalyan but as Gökova is a bay, sea is clean and season is long like in all southern resorts. If I would have had to make a choise in the list, I would definitely choose Fethiye.

btw: Urla is a small seaside town of İzmir.

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seviyeyi koruyalım, means in here: there should be a line between us. a line that protects the limit of conversation.

so the translation is:

I´m married and I´ve responsibilites so there should be a line between us.

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"gereksiz" sounds familiar when it is used in Past Tense Form:

özür dilemen gereksizdi, bence: There was no need you to apologize, in my opinion.

but, özür dilemen gereksiz....mmmm...i´m not sure. as "özür dilemene gerek yok" is used commonly, other structures sound unuseful and weird. because when it isnt necessary, we commonly use "gerek yok" for "gerek" structure.

we generally use "gereksiz" to mean "pointless, inappropriate, nonsense."

Çok gereksiz bir toplantıydı: it was a pointless meeting.

Çok gereksiz bir çıkıştı: it was a pointless/nonsense/inappropriate reaction.

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Oh, forgive me. I should have explained it. Yes, it needs to be "gerekli". But, however, "özür dilemen gerekli değil" does not sound familiar.

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You can´t use "özür dilemen gerek değil" because it is not a correct sentence.

Alpha, are you at loggerheads with Turkish characters?

Let me add my own try: (just for practise)

Merhaba Miray, sen ve Mithat nasılsınız? Miray, Nesrin´in işten ayrılmadan önceki son çalışma günü olan 31 Ağustos´ta, emekli olup ayrılışını kutlamak için herhangi birinin bir plan yapıp yapmadığını merak ediyorum. Onun için küçük bir kutlama yapsak iyi olurdu, ben orada olsaydım bir şeyler ayarlardım. Neyse, iyi tatiller, kendine iyi bak.

En iyi dileklerimle,

Richard.

Arkadaşın olmak istiyorum. İyi bir arkadaş olacağını biliyorum. En azından arkadaş olalım. Sensiz yapamam, tekrardan düşün, lütfen.

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t.c //

Özür dilemene gerek yok.

Kasım´da annem tek başına Hindistan´a gidecek.

my try,

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Londra! Harika! Oraya yaşamak için mi, çalışmak için mi, okumak için mi yoksa sadece tatil için mi gidiyorsun?

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Bingo !

Good try.

"key" means "anahtar" in Turkish.

keys > anahtarlar

door key: kapı anahtarı >>> door keys : kapı anahtarları

car key: araba anahtarı >>> car keys : araba anahtarları

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Love is a toffee-apple, you eat its candy and then you have remain its stem only.

(Oh, sorry. I haven´t seen deli´s translation! I just read about "sap kalmak" part )

KAFAYI YEMEK ?

KAFASINDAN GEÇMEK?

What interesting is "kafa" and "baş" look like they mean same but "kafasından geçmek" and "başından geçmek" have different meanings.

kafasından geçme: to think something

başında geçmek: to experience something

Meaningful lyrics from a Gülşen song for this structure:

Bu gece başımdan geçenlere değil,

Kafamdan geçenlere içtim.

Tonight, not for what I´ve experienced,

I´ve drunk for what I thought (considered, for the thoughts that made my mind busy).

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A little correction:

Eczacılık kolejinde öğrenciyim, ya sen?

When a noun recieves a vowel-suffix (or a suffix ending by a vowel) before -de -da suffixes, we put ´n´ connection consonant among them.

Eczacılık kolej + i + n + de

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Kendini koyuvermek is not correct. Kendini koyvermek is used.

I don´t want to be misunderstood, so I´ve changed and corrected my message.

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What I say and what you do aren´t different. I wanted to mean the same thing but when you put "to you" at the end of the sentences, I´m confussed, maybe a comme could help us like sonunda did.

Because, in this sentence, in Turkish, it sounds like something is minus there. Actually, alone itself, "sana gel demiyorum" means "I´m not telling ´come´ to you", but when you add "kendine gel diyorum", then, it sounds minus. It sounds like:

I´m not telling " come ´your place´ " (sana takes this meaning in when used with second sentence). I´m telling you ´ come to yourself ´ (kendine gel grammatically has this meaning) As it talks about two places to prefer and writer of this sentences wants to use this tricky meaning in here.

I hope I could explain it but this sentence is minus and we call it "anlatım bozukluğu" (incohorency).

It would sound grammatically correct if it was like this:

(Sana), bana (to me) gel demiyorum, kendine gel diyorum!

By the way, it doesn´t have to be "bana". It may be any noun in dative mood that fits "gel" verb.

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I did instead of you for other possible meanings...

Sana gel demiyorum means, I don´t ask you to come. I´m not saying come to you, what does it mean? Does it have a meaning? By this meaning, sana gel demiyorum sounds very nonsense.

I don´t say come to me, I say come to your senses.

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Zeytinne´s translation is used for specific languages. We don´t use "İngiliz Dili" or "Yunan Dili" in daily speech for specific languages, this structure is only used to express linguatic studies of universities:

İngiliz Dili ve Ebediyatı: English Language and Literature.

Yunan Dili ve Edebiyatı: Greek Language and Literature.

X - (ce, ca, çe, ça) Y - (ce´den, ca´dan, çe´den, ça´dan) daha zor(dur).

(X,Y : the name of nation; French: Fransız; Arabic: Arap, etc...)

Fransızca İngilizce´den daha zor(dur): French is more difficult than English.

İngilizce Fransızca´dan daha kolay(dır): English is easier than French. 

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In Scotland, it is a juridical obligation to take someone in when he/she knocks your door and asks you to use your lavatory.

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You don´t care the race of people, eh? That´s why you are always #1 at ethnicity and race discussions?

Very funny!

Duy da inanma!

Exactly. Who cares about genes? I don´t care about my genetic codes. I am happy being (or calling myself)  a Turk. "NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DİYENE".

Sözün bittiği yer! Bence bundan sonra herkes sadece SUSSUN, özellikle de şu entel-dantel tayfası! NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DİYENE!

Let´s correct them first:

İyiyim, iyi olmam lazım. Siz nasılsınız, efendim?

>>> I´m ok, I must be ok. How about you, sir?

İyiyiz, koçum. Haber alamadık senden bayağıdır, merak ettik.

>>> We´re ok, man! Long time no see you, we worried about you.

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Thank you, Gülümseme. Hope you always have "gülümseme" on your face.

Yes, I do correct because I must do it for learners here, shall I not do it?

And "thanx" for information.

And zeytinne, thanks in here means respect...

"thanks"

Let´s correct the sentence:

Ooo, daha 2 yıl bekleyeceğiz yani...İyi bakalım... Dikkat et kendine.

Ooo, we will wait for 2 years more, you mean... Ok, then. Take care of yourself.

my try 

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bak hele! : hey! (expressing that you gonna say something)

bak hele, bu akşam gelecek misin? (hey, are you gonna come tonigh?)

bak sen! : oh really ? (surprising and sometimes belittling interjection).

Can sınavı kazanmış! (Can succedded the exam!)

Bak sen! (Oh, very good!)

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Right, because ´da´ is a conjugation here.

"o da olacak..."

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Oh, ok. Sorry.

Fransa´dayken İngilizlerle birlikte yaşadım.

that´s better, perhaps.

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Umarım Ramazan´da senin için her şey iyi gidiyordur. Ramazan´dan sonra gelebilmek için uçak bakıyorum. Seni çok özlüyorum ve görmek için sabırsızlanıyorum.

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Why didn´t you correct the original sentence?

İyiyim ama benim göbeğim de büyüdü artık. Dün gece aramışsın ama ben uyumadan önce yemeğimi yiyip uyudum, o yüzden tel. sesine uyanamadım, üzgünüm.

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Her uçağa bindiğimde, düşecek diye korkuyorum. Çünkü çok büyükler, büyük metal şeyler böyledir. Ama uçmayı hala seviyorum.

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I appreciate a lot of ideas of him, but he made me surprise recently, with his some ideas on his coloumns. But he is that kind of journalist that this country needs, at least, he can think wise. I also want to congratulate him becuase of his courage; that he discussed evolution theory in Sansürsüz with both sides. It means that, besides politics, he has also ideas about scientific issues.

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This kind of programs have same mentality with BBG. The only difference is that BBC was at a house and this is in an island. The only thing they do is to argue, fight and scheme.

Well - I bet on that there are more meaningful programs at same time. It is better to watch an open-discussion in HT, NTV or CNNTurk, perhaps?

I have never seen such a meaningless and nonsense TV show in this country. It is a pity for Turkish media.

No. It is invalid. Once you announce that your ID Card got lost, it loses its validity. In Turkey, when a citizen loses his/her ID Card, (nüfus cüzdanı he/she must announce it by Official Newspaper and applies Prosecution Office for new one and previous one becomes invalid.

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turkishcobra //

Ben okul kayıtları için girdim nete. Bakayım, sen var mısın, dedim *

Corrected version of sentence and here is the translation:

I connected to internet for school registration. And, I wanted to check you if you were online.

My try.

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turkishcobra //

Actually, when a high pressure system brings a heat wave on a region or country, it starts to lose its power in a week but anormally, for more than 20 days, we have been suffering the heat of this high system.

They say that it is because Monsoon rains of this year. According to scientists, Monsoon has expanded its sphere of influence and created a huge pressure difference between itself and non-Monsoon climates and so, balance was broken. So, flood disasters in Pakistan and surrounding areas and extreme heats in Eastern Europe are linked to same reason.

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I remember that, when it was 13th of September, it was also the first days of schools, a very hot and depressing weather. In İstanbul, Tekirdağ and Kocaeli, government had organized some earthquake conferences at some shcools (at schools with a conference center).

Conference center of my school was at the sixth storey, and it was 300-student capacitied. Afternoon, they called us to the hall and a man told us about earthquakes; how they occure, why they occure, etc...

He said us that aftershocks were gonna continue for some months and maybe for a year and, maybe, another powerful jolt could have hit us at any moment (and it happened, 3 months later, another one with 7.2-magnitude has hit us when it was 12nd of November evening). He warned us to prepare a bag with whistle, a bottle of water, flashlight and a packet of biscuits in it. Yes, we did and for 3 months I slept with an emergency bag under my bed.

And the conference. Unfrotunately we couldn´t complete it because when he was telling us about the structures of earthquakes, a 5.8 magnitude earthquake off-shore Istanbul hit us and guess how it was to feel it in 6. storey! I cant remember how I and other students went down the stairs in such a short time!

They distrubited us to homes. I can remember how I was afraid, and I can remember how I was pleased when I saw and hugged my mother who was sitting in the garden of apartmen with her friends and waiting for me.

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turkishcobra //

We should correct the original sentence as well:

nereLerdsn > nerelerdesin?

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Tunceli - İvrindi ( BALIKESİR )

And this is the forecast of Turkish State Meteorological Service for Thursday !!! For a very long time I have been following this website but never seen like that one!!!! Celcius degrees do not look very high but when they come together with humidity, result is this!!

Not only Kurdish citizens, a lot of people living in other corners of country think that everything is going perfect and there are unlimited job oppurtunities in Istanbul. So, they leave their fatherlands and move to Istanbul without sufficient money to buy or rent a home, so they build their own ones at outskirts of city. And unfortunately Istanbul is welcomed thousands of immigrants every year.

And the result... in next disaster, 30.000 people are supposed to lose their lives. I´m sure that, God shall protect all of us, if Istanbul is hit by a 6.0 scale earthquake right now, I can´t imagine the size of disaster and destruction...

Authorities strengthen the buildings to provide them NOT to get collapsed during earthquake but they don´t consider the ahead. A high number of this strengthened buildings (hospitals, schools and other kind of public buildings) will be unable to be used after main shock, although they won´t get collapsed.

And by the way, they can´t stop immigration, they can´t say "don´t come! turn back!" but they can control it. Becuase, otherwise, Istanbul has been turning into a paper-houses city day by day.

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It was 11 years ago and it was Monday night and Tuesday morning again, likewise now. It was nearing to the end of summer, just 6 days ago, when it was 11th August 1999, we had observed the greatest and last solar eclipse of 20th century with our ´solar eye-glasses´, we were just 11 years old kids and for first time we saw the sun hiding behind the moon at that time of noon.

Days passed and we arrived to 16th of August, monday night. Istanbul is suffering dog days again, it is too hot and all windows and doors of block apartments of Bakırköy district, are open threw. (I lived in Bakırköy till I was 15). There are our equals driving bike around the narrow street which is going down to the beach and connecting to Kennedy Avenue. There is a gloom over the buildings and city, as if sky darkened before the time it always does.

Till ten o´clock of night, I rode bike and then went to home. I opened the window of my room and went bed about midnight. I couldn´t sleep even 1 minute until 02.30 a.m., because of that hot! At last, I succumbed and went to the living room to watch TV.

Everything was okay until 03.02, when I started to hear a sound like a monster scream. First, I thought a lorry was passing through the street but it was much more different than a lorry voice.

I saw the room fastly moving and swinging left and right, furnitures were moving and wheeled television table was due to get out of the room. But, much scarier than everything was that voice, that I could never understand what it actually was.

Shake lasted for 45 seconds and it looked like years. When earthquake stopped, my father embraced me and ran to the exit door, with my mother who was crying and embracing my 1 year younger brother. When they opened the door, I heard the screams of our feared neighbour, any of them did understand whap happened.

We left the building - at that moment, electricity cut. We opened the radio of our car, everybody´s ear was at any news that would come from radio. Everybody was really curious about the epicentre and magnitude of earthquake.

We learnt. Epicenter was Gölcük town of Kocaeli. First, they declared the magnitude as 6.7 but they corrected and changed it as 7.4

Kocaeli, Sakarya and Yalova took the heaviest damage. It jolted all Marmara Region and took 17.000 lives.

I wish not to experience same disasters again and I wish peace for our brothers and sisters who have lost their lives because of this disasters.

Why did I tell this? 11 years past, a lot of memories have been forgetten, naturally. And now, scientist forecast another and worse earthquake disaster and this time is much closer to Istanbul, the heart of Türkiye.

What has changed in 11 years? Will we experience the same fear and pains or this time, are we really ready?

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turkishcobra//

sen oldukça prensim?

I have never heard such a sentence, it is wrong. How could others translate it, I wonder?!

Correction:

Özledim çocukken seni kovalamayı. Okulun koridorlarındaki çığlıkları özledim, çok özledim.

I missed to chase you in childhood. I missed the screams at school corridors, I missed very much.

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Seni gördüğümde tanımaktan korktum,

Seni tanıdığımda öpmekten korktum,

Seni öptüğümde sevmekten korktum,

Şimdi seni seviyorum ve seni kaybetmekten korkuyorum.

my try.

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Bunu nereden aldın?

or

Bunu nereden getirdin?

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turkishcobra

 Note that "i / İ" and "ı / I" are not same vowels

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In Türkiye, internet is now cheap and fast and there are about 40 millions of internet users in country; digital cables coming by under-sea and special price offers...

Internet in Türkiye is faster and more qualified than a lot of European countries.

İstanbul´da Sonbahar

Mevsim rüzgarları
Ne zaman eserse,
O zaman hatırlarım,
Çocukluk rüyalarım,
Şeytan uçurtmalarım,
Öper beni annem yanaklarımdan,
Güzel bir rüyada,
Sanki sevdiklerim hayattalarken hala...

Akşama doğru azalırsa yağmur,
Kız Kulesi ve Adalar...
Ah, burada olsan,
Çok güzel hala,
İstanbul´da sonbahar...

Her zaman kolay değil,
Sevmeden sevişmek,
Tanımak bir vucüdu,
Yavaşça öğrenmek,
Alışmak ve kaybetmek.
İstanbul bugün yorgun,
Üzgün ve yaşlanmış,
Biraz kilo almış,
Ağlamış yine,
Rimelleri akıyor.

Translation:

Season winds,
When they blow,
I remember,
My childhood dreams,
My devil-face kites,
My mum kisses my cheeks,
In a beautiful dream,
As if all my lovers are alive..

If rain slows down towards evening,
Maiden´s Tower and Princes´ Islands...
I wish you would be here,
It is still magnificent,
Autumn in Istanbul.

It is not always easy,
To make love without love,
To discover a body,
To learn it slowly,
To warm into and lose it,
Istanbul is tired today,
She is sad and old,
She put on weight,
She had cried,
Her mascara is running.

If rain slows down towards evening,
Maiden´s Tower and Princes´ Islands...
I wish you would be here,
It is still magnificent,
Autumn in Istanbul.

and the link:

http://www.mp3dinliyoruz.com/Teoman-Istanbulda-Sonbahar-Remix-/q-Vmg0OEhRX1I5Ums=

Hey, LIR! Do you always have to be one "reply" forward ?

DECIDING

The most important thing in our life is deciding.

It´s hard to decide: it requires information and experience.

it is also about chance.

We alway decide: environment choice, friend choice, school choice, occupation choice, partner choice, house choice, investment choice, car choice, book choice, recreation choice, food choice, road choice, etc...

All the decisions create our lives.

Mechanism of life is constituted with decisions, worked with decisions.

Every beginning begins with a decision. Nothing grows up without decisions.

You take risk each time you decide.

Our lives are the general total of the decisions we make...

my try

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turkishcobra //

Eskişehir - Erbaa ( TOKAT )

Rize - Erdemli ( MERSİN )

huh...what is this ??

lets translate:

some people couldn´t attain to turn into a person from wood like Pinokyo, they always remain as lowbrow

note, "odun" in here means "lowbrow, a person without feelings, caveman"

i thought you were a non-Turk

Akçakoca ( DÜZCE ) - Dursunbey ( BALIKESİR )

Mount Nemrut

connection: same category / mountains

Mount Nemrut lies in Adıyaman Province, nearby its Kahta county.

It is famous with its "Stone Heads".

This Stone Heads are on display in a National Park in Mount Nemrut. This National Park hosts an antique city remain from Kommagene Kingdom.

And these are some of Stone Heads:

And the Statue of Antiochos:

And some other pictures

And general glance to National Park of Nemrut :

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turkishcobra //

And this is the picture of Mount Ararat / Ağrı Dağı:

I think this will be an alternative harbour for Istanbul, to disburden the harbours of this metropol, as they built a new airport in Çorlu to disburden Atatürk Airport in Istanbul.

Muratlı ( TEKİRDAĞ ) - Malkara ( TEKİRDAĞ )

The railway starting from Muratlı will also connect industrial counties Çorlu and Çerkezköy to the harbour of Tekirdağ. But in my opinion, they should first develop this harbour, it is not as big as to hold all the transportation of Trakya industry.

Sigara içmeyi bırakabilir misin?

But,

Sigarayı bırakabilir misin? sounds better...

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A nice picture of İshak Paşa Palace.

Hey, good idea peactrain! Another informative thread for Türkiye. And let me go on by Sarayiçi

İshak Paşa Sarayı:

Located 5kms far from Doğubeyazıt county of Ağrı province, on a hard and rocky fields. Construction of this palace was started in 1685, in Ottomans Term, by Çolak Abdi Paşa, who was also "bey" of Beyazıt Province. Harem Section was completed by İshak Paşa, his grandson.

Now, the picture of this palace is decipted at the backside of 100 Lira banknotes.

Tarsus ( MERSİN ) - Mazıdağı ( MARDİN )

1) Evi sattın mı?

2) Lütfen bana yardım et/edin.

3) Ona gerçekten tekrar ihtiyacım var.

4) Çok uzun bir süre bekledim.

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turkishcobra //

I sometimes travel in TEM highway both between İstanbul - Edirne and İstanbul - Ankara but never seen anyone traveling under 130 kms. Because people think radars are located only in double roads. This is because of drivers are very rarely fined when they exceed the speed limit.

Yes handsome, because it doesnt contain any political discussions and reason for you to fight with people

Sorry - i´m just trying to help people about the cities of Turkey... At least talking "realities!"

Şarköy ( TEKİRDAĞ ) - Yenipazar ( AYDIN )

...and the problem is there are "provocateurs"

they,

1) are very successful at turning every conversation into political discussions.

2) never hesitate of talking about sensitive subjects that other members of this room might be hurt, they really like doing that.

3) declare you ´intolerant, ignorant, arrogant, anti-democratic´ when you object them NOT to talk about this sensitive issues or don´t agree with them. (as if they have more knowledge than others!!!!)

4) are very free; warned by no one and protected by some "libertarian (!)(!)(!) mentalities".

5) always drop you innuendos once they designated you as a "target".

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And a little note apart from this discussion:

thehandsom said that Türkiye Şehirleri was the most boring thread that he has ever seen in his life...

yes, you are right. coz it doesnt appeal to you.

because it doesnt contain any political discussions and reason for you to fight with people

Sorry - i´m just trying to help people about the cities of Turkey... At least talking "realities!"

ŞanlıUrfa - Şişli ( İSTANBUL )

Over the mountains,

Trough the trees,

Travel the world

And the seven seas.

Dağların üzerinden,

Ağaçların arasından,

Dünyayı ve okyanusları gez. (or, geziyorum, according to the meaning)

note: I think he wanted to mean "ocean" by seven seas.

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turkishcobra //

It is "Uzunköprü"

Yes, a county of Edirne Province and means "Long Bridge".

Ünye ( ORDU ) - Eynesil ( GİRESUN )

Trabzon - Türkoğlu ( KAHRAMANMARAŞ )

Alaşehir ( MANİSA ) - Menemen ( İZMİR )

Akbulut is a village. Not a county. It is village of Gürpınar county of Van province.

Akbulut ( VAN ) - Viranşehir ( ŞANLIURFA )

Ulaş ( SİVAS ) - Şarkışla ( SİVAS )

Mecitözü ( ÇORUM ) - Çorlu ( TEKİRDAĞ )

Mardin - Malatya

Ağaçören ( AKSARAY ) - Yatağan ( MUĞLA )

Çobanlar ( AFYONKARAHİSAR ) - Çarşamba ( SAMSUN )

Kuşadası ( AYDIN ) - Avcılar ( İSTANBUL )

Narlı ( KAHRAMANMARAŞ ) - Nurhak ( KAHRAMANMARAŞ )

Note that "Narlı" is not a county (ilçe). Narlı is a town (belde) connected to "Pazarcık" county of K.Maraş.

Adıyaman - Nevşehir

This is not because of Turkish is a child language. I read that article and it says because of every word has a meaning alone itself in this language, children can learn it better.

Ankara and Adana are both provinces. (two of five biggest cities of Türkiye)

Ankara  - Aladağ ( ADANA )

Fındıklı (RİZE) - Iğdır / Isparta / Ilgın (KONYA)

Pazarcık ( KAHRAMANMARAŞ ) - Pozantı ( ADANA )

Bolu - Boyabat ( SİNOP )

Herkes ikinci bir şansı hak eder.

Eşme ( UŞAK ) - Uzunköprü ( EDİRNE )

Aydın - Akdağmadeni ( YOZGAT )

Silopi ( ŞIRNAK ) - Selendi ( MANİSA )

Listen Sıla, she really sings very good and uses Turkish wonderful.

Always, hedef

Torbalı ( İZMİR ) - Tatvan ( BİTLİS )

Şuhut ( AFYON ) - Şereflikoçhisar ( ANKARA )

Van - Viranşehir ( ŞANLIURFA )

Pasinler ( ERZURUM ) - Palandöken ( ERZURUM )